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[GINerf]

Also, why is (or isn't) brass better than PVC? Is it smoother or what?

[cxwq]

PETG is a close relative of PET which is the plastic used in soda bottles. It's primarily used as a packaging material for products sold at retail in clear tubes.

Brass is better than PVC only because it's much more likely to correctly fit your darts - particularly if you're using half inch `micro' stefans which don't tend to fit properly in PVC/CPVC/copper. The reason brass fits so well is because it's available in 1/32" diameter increments.

[IronRhino]

PETG is a very good barrel material. PM me if you'd like to buy some.

[Grinch]

I've used both PETG and brass, and and I like brass better. It's easier to work with, can be nested, telescoped, etc..., but PETG is good for guns with a barrel rotation system that can't be too heavy.

[Nerfer16]

Brass is really expensive though. I prefer copper.

[GINerf]

Could I buy PETG at a local hardware store? Will they know what PETG is or is it an acronym for something?

[Nerfer16]

I doubt you will find it at a hardware store. PETG is used as packaging for drill bits among other items.

[GINerf]

Brass it is then...

[Chrysophylax]

Note that brass is not available at any of my hardware stores. I went to a, "Hobbytown USA" store and they had some.

[CustomSnake202]

Ace is the place.

[Chrysophylax]

Ace has K&S brand?

[CustomSnake202]

Ace has K&S brand?

Um, I don't know what brand it is but it's a good brand. (never heard anything about crappy brass) Ace has all kinds of sizes like 1/2, 3/8, 1/4, and a bunch of smaller ones. There is about ten different sizes at my Ace.

[cxwq]

Ace and most good hobby shops carry K&S which is the best brass you can get.

OSH and Lowes carry Steelworks which is double the wall thickness and not cut quite as nicely. The main problem with this stuff is that you have to go up 1/16" if you want to nest/telescope different sizes.

[IronRhino]

Steelworks is also more expensive. I'd recommend PETG for pretty much all air guns.

[Nerfer16]

Steelworks is also more expensive. I'd recommend PETG for pretty much all air guns.

Except for the fact that PETG isn't commonly available...

[IronRhino]

Yes it is. Just PM me.

[NerfManiac]

I'd recommend PETG for pretty much all air guns.

So what you are saying is that you'd recommend PETG for all nerf guns run on air? That is a pretty wide range of guns. Hehehe. I'm just fuckin with ya. I know what you mean.

[Nerfer16]

Yes it is. Just PM me.

It's not available as in "I'm going to buy six feet of PETG next time I'm near the hardware store."

[TheHaze]

I'm sticking to brass, K&S is based out of chicago, I live outside of chicago, thier side comp. "Special Shapes" is about 15 min. from my house, so really, I don't care how good petg is, brass is much much easier for me. And cheap. No shipping.

Edited by TheHaze, 28 January 2004 - 05:46 PM.

[IronRhino]

Good for you, but PETG is cheaper.

8' of K&S brass= $18.40
8' of IR PETG= $13

Just so you know.

[Black Wrath]

Good for you, but PETG is cheaper.

8' of K&S brass= $18.40
8' of IR PETG= $13

Just so you know.

He said cheaper after shipping is included.

No shipping.

Seeing how you are the self proclaimed supplier and god of PETG, it may seem cheap to you, but to people miles away, buying $13 of PETG, then $22 of shipping, it seems like a bad deal. They would be able to buy brass almost three times with no shipping or hidden charges, before they could buy your eight feet of PETG.

Just something to consider.

[TheHaze]

I realize why petg is better for you guys. I was just sharing my personal opinion on it.

Edited by TheHaze, 29 January 2004 - 03:36 AM.

[Jangadance]

Ah, I may be mistaken but I think that includes shipping charges.

He sells his PETG for $1.25 a foot, and 8 feet of that would sell for $10. Since this stuff is light, shipping is really reasonable. I have used all sorts of barrel materials, and right now I think that the one with the most bang for tha buck is PETG. Brass is great, especially in spring guns, but you have to buy different sizes if you want to telescope it, adding to the confusion. Plus, depending on how big a chain you get your brass from, it can run anywhere from $2 a foot to $3.50 or so.

As other people have mentioned the ONLY benefit I can imagine brass has over PETG is maybe that you can telescope pieces inside each other. Oh, that and metal will always be cooler looking than clear plastic.

<edit> I sent a check to IR and disguised it as a love note so that the postman wouldn't steal my check, and he was so kind as to reciprocate and mark the package as if it were containing rods of beef jerky or some other consumable love-treat, as opposed to precious, exquisite PETG. Whatta guy. Shipping for my 10'-12' purchase (can't quite recall) was lower than $5, I know.

Edited by Jangadance, 28 January 2004 - 06:21 PM.

[Grinch]

Brass is really expensive though. I prefer copper.

No it's not. Copper sucks.

Yeah...and like I said, I prefer brass as well. It's much easier to work with. With brass, you can telescope, sand, polish, and it's very durable. PETG is very flimsy, can't be sanded without scratching it, and it's not as durable as brass is. Besides, brass actually has a different texture than PETG, and I seem to like the smoothness of it better.

I pick up my brass at local hobby shops for $2 a foot. That's pretty cheap. Hey, it's not 10' of PVC for a buck, but brass is good stuff.

[Nerfer16]

Brass is really expensive though. I prefer copper.

No it's not. Copper sucks.
I pick up my brass at local hobby shops for $2 a foot. That's pretty cheap.

I get 10' of copper for less than 5$ Now that's cheap.