#1
Posted 17 December 2008 - 06:21 PM
"We have to remember what we all have in common, and why we are here. Our shared love of shooting things, and each other with little foam darts." - Niaja Blue
#2
Posted 17 December 2008 - 06:27 PM
Picture it as a telescoping barrel, except in reverse: instead of going from a really-tight fit to a somewhat-loose fit, you are going from a really-loose fit to a proper fit.
Let's say you want your barrel material to be CPVC, because it fits your darts "just perfect" The thing to do would be to nest that into some 1/2" PVC, or even some 1/2" thinwall PVC; either way, there is going to be plenty of room between the dart and the PVC.
Make sure, when nesting, that you only put the CPVC a few inches into the PVC. Leave several inches of PVC "un-nested" like so:
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(where ___ is PVC, ... is nothing, and --- is CPVC)
To load, you put several stefans into the PVC (where the ... are, above). Before firing, you prime your weapon (pump or cock), then shake the barrel down in order to have one dart be pushed slightly into the CPVC.
Even though the dart isn't pushed all the way into the CPVC, it's enough to create a fairly good seal.
When you pull the trigger, the compressed air moves past the darts in the "clip area" (where ... are) and pushes the front-most dart (the one creating a seal) through and out the CPVC barrel.
Before firing again, you'll need to shake the barrel down again in order to make the next dart create a seal.
Then lather, rinse, and continue to repeat.
The upside is that the whole thing is fairly reliable; there's no breech to jam. The downside is that the clip creates deadspace...which decreases range (though not necessarily a ton). That's why people mostly use them on fairly high-powered blasters, like AT2ks or the SNAP series. When you put an inline clip on those, you get a moderately-ranged, high-ROF blaster when compared to their "singled" forms.
This is a good explanation. By the way, I found this in under 1 minute by searching.
Also, here is the link to the entire thread. Link
#3
Posted 17 December 2008 - 06:51 PM
Pwn... Even though the search function is a piece of shit, sometimes it actually gives you what you're looking for, so use it.This is a good explanation. By the way, I found this in under 1 minute by searching.
Also, here is the link to the entire thread. Link
#4
Posted 17 December 2008 - 06:58 PM
"We have to remember what we all have in common, and why we are here. Our shared love of shooting things, and each other with little foam darts." - Niaja Blue
#5
Posted 17 December 2008 - 10:06 PM
Ok, thanks much. I may just try one of these, they seem very useful.
Oh hell yeah they are. I love my RSCP'd AT2k, RSCP is basically a offset Inline-Clip. It works the same way but before the barrel it has a T coupler. They are very effective.
#6
Posted 17 December 2008 - 10:15 PM
Im having some trouble with my Inline clip. I am using SCH40 Half inch PVC to Half in CPVC. My clip can hold 4 rounds and it shoots 2 at a time all the time, the first only going a few feet, and the other shooting about 80... what am I doing wrong?Ok, thanks much. I may just try one of these, they seem very useful.
Oh hell yeah they are. I love my RSCP'd AT2k, RSCP is basically a offset Inline-Clip. It works the same way but before the barrel it has a T coupler. They are very effective.
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#7
Posted 17 December 2008 - 10:32 PM
#8
Posted 17 December 2008 - 10:59 PM
I use copper BBs and my darts are extremely tight in CPVC. Im using my really high powered SNAPHow does your darts fit CPVC? If it's really loose then that might explain that. If they are only slightly loose, then do your use 1/4'' weights for your stafans?
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#9
Posted 17 December 2008 - 11:01 PM
<a href="http://nerfhaven.com...howtopic=20409" target="_blank">Make it pump-action</a>
#10
Posted 17 December 2008 - 11:06 PM
did that. it may just be something I have to work out. its weird. it just always fires two rounds.For cpvc, I get a huge increase in reliability by carving the back of the barrel out to form a bit of a ramp to guide the darts in.
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#11
Posted 17 December 2008 - 11:12 PM
<a href="http://nerfhaven.com...howtopic=20409" target="_blank">Make it pump-action</a>
#12
Posted 17 December 2008 - 11:23 PM
was jamming em in pretty tight. Might be my problem. I'll check tomorrow.How much "rattling room" are you giving the darts? Does using only 3 help at all?
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#13
Posted 17 December 2008 - 11:25 PM
<a href="http://nerfhaven.com...howtopic=20409" target="_blank">Make it pump-action</a>
#14
Posted 17 December 2008 - 11:27 PM
interesting. I will try it tomorrow. That sounds like it will work better, thank you for relaying the wise words of Carbon to me.Yeah, I find that they like a dart length (or a bit under) of empty space. Credit for this particular pearl of wisdom goes to Carbon, of course.
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#15
Posted 17 December 2008 - 11:42 PM
Another possible solution to the double fire issue: I use a trick that Frost Vectron used on his Razorbeast, and slip a small length of metal tubing into the the clip. This gives a bit more mass behind the darts, and helps seat the first dart better. Between that and tippbing the blaster backwards before firing seems to eliminated the problem. I had almost no problems with double fires last summer.
Edited by Carbon, 17 December 2008 - 11:43 PM.
#17
Posted 18 December 2008 - 03:49 PM
Not a bad idea, but even with the rattle room, when I tested it today, I would fire the first dart fine, then no matter what, i would get a double fire. I didn't have that problem when I was using the really small inline clip i had (two darts) so its just been really weird. Thanks for the help Carbon. Just means i got to fiddle with it.It's true that "rattling space" is helpful, but if that were the only case, then your second two darts shouldn't have double fired because of the extra room. In playing around with inlines, I'm also beginning to think that there's a relationship between plunger volume and useful inline length. In my two blasters with extra long inlines (6 shots), I almost never have double shots. On the SNAP-5, which has a 3 shot clip, I have a large number of double fires. This requires some testing when it's finally warm out again....
Another possible solution to the double fire issue: I use a trick that Frost Vectron used on his Razorbeast, and slip a small length of metal tubing into the the clip. This gives a bit more mass behind the darts, and helps seat the first dart better. Between that and tippbing the blaster backwards before firing seems to eliminated the problem. I had almost no problems with double fires last summer.
Venom: Haven't we all?
#18
Posted 18 December 2008 - 04:51 PM
Edited by Firefox551, 18 December 2008 - 04:54 PM.
"We have to remember what we all have in common, and why we are here. Our shared love of shooting things, and each other with little foam darts." - Niaja Blue
#19
Posted 18 December 2008 - 07:13 PM
You'll do a lot better if you spread the lips with the front. Trying to wriggle the back in there first seems a bit counterintuitive.
RSCBow
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