Has There Ever Been A Successful Airtank?
#1
Posted 12 December 2008 - 09:10 PM
I have seen this one persons thought I think his name was galaxy(something something) and he posted ideas of an airtank.. it looked like it would of worked? And I have seen people saying it wouldn't. What makes them say so?
"Just adding some lube and twisting it back and forth for a while should make it easier"
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#2
Posted 12 December 2008 - 09:27 PM
#3
Posted 12 December 2008 - 09:34 PM
<a href="http://nerfhaven.com...howtopic=20409" target="_blank">Make it pump-action</a>
#4
Posted 12 December 2008 - 10:01 PM
I saw that on his example/blueprint that he uses small sized rubber plates. Now if you can change that into a bigger size. i.e. instead of the small size being 1/10 in OD and the pipe is 1/2 in ID well then of course it'll leak most likely considering the size of the rubber plate... it's not enough to cover over the release hole. Now if we can add a rubber plate the size of lets use 4/10 OD for a pipe with 1/2 ID as well, and add a think lube inside the chamber... this will make it more air tight because the thinkness and density of the lube doesn't allow air to seep through easier.. and because the both the rubber plates are just 1/10 OD apart from completely clogging the 1/2 ID piping making it more air tight and also covering more of the release hole.If you'd actually READ that thread, you would have known the difficulties involved in such a project. Look at CaptainSlug's D-CHAP valves.
maybe this MIGHT work.. sometimes the solution isn't always dry and solid.
"Just adding some lube and twisting it back and forth for a while should make it easier"
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#5
Posted 27 December 2008 - 02:34 PM
1/2" PVC
2 Endcaps
Hammer on the endcaps as much as possible. Super glue around the edge, one complete rings without holes or layers.
Voila.
Yes, it works. Please... please don't bother me to take pictures (actually, I can't, I'm out of state right now).
Tips for attaching tubing: Drill holes smaller than the tubing so you have to force the tubing through. This increases the seal. You still need a ring of super glue around the edge though.
...and ideas are bulletproof. "
#6
Posted 27 December 2008 - 02:36 PM
<a href="http://nerfhaven.com...howtopic=20409" target="_blank">Make it pump-action</a>
#7
Posted 27 December 2008 - 02:41 PM
Uhm, difficulties? No. For Cpt. Slug's project specifically, yes, because it's insane, but if one just wants to build a simple airtank it's very simple.
1/2" PVC
2 Endcaps
Hammer on the endcaps as much as possible. Super glue around the edge, one complete rings without holes or layers.
Voila.
Yes, it works. Please... please don't bother me to take pictures (actually, I can't, I'm out of state right now).
Tips for attaching tubing: Drill holes smaller than the tubing so you have to force the tubing through. This increases the seal. You still need a ring of super glue around the edge though.
Don't follow these directions! PVC should be solvent welded with the proper primer and adhesive. None of this "super glue" crap. Also, instead of getting two end caps, get one end cap and one reducer with threads. Then insert the proper MIP to barbed fitting, and you have a real tank that will all work properly for you.
Edited by Draconis, 27 December 2008 - 02:53 PM.
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#8
Posted 27 December 2008 - 10:51 PM
Sorry to hear that man, it's like that one famous bumper sticker, "Shit Happens"
#9
Posted 28 December 2008 - 06:22 PM
Don't follow these directions! PVC should be solvent welded with the proper primer and adhesive. None of this "super glue" crap. Also, instead of getting two end caps, get one end cap and one reducer with threads. Then insert the proper MIP to barbed fitting, and you have a real tank that will all work properly for you.
Sorry... where's your proof?
A lot of things SHOULD be done. For example, one SHOULD not modify blasters or their darts.
But that's never stopped me. And, just like all the mods I -shouldn't- have done, the airtank I detailed works perfectly.
Plus, reducers and fitting cost moolah. ;o)
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Okay... when you ask about valves and pistons and what not, it makes me think you are asking for more than just an airtank. An airtank holds air. Simple as that. If you want something that releases air, you want a valve or trigger. I'm sorry if I misinterpreted.
...and ideas are bulletproof. "
#10
Posted 28 December 2008 - 07:26 PM
I'm going to have to back up Hilt on this one, as I've actually seen a working airgun from him. And although you should, you can easily get away with goop, super glue and in some cases hot glue, depending on the pressure you are running through it.Don't follow these directions! PVC should be solvent welded with the proper primer and adhesive. None of this "super glue" crap. Also, instead of getting two end caps, get one end cap and one reducer with threads. Then insert the proper MIP to barbed fitting, and you have a real tank that will all work properly for you.
Sorry... where's your proof?
A lot of things SHOULD be done. For example, one SHOULD not modify blasters or their darts.
But that's never stopped me. And, just like all the mods I -shouldn't- have done, the airtank I detailed works perfectly.
Plus, reducers and fitting cost moolah. ;o)
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Okay... when you ask about valves and pistons and what not, it makes me think you are asking for more than just an airtank. An airtank holds air. Simple as that. If you want something that releases air, you want a valve or trigger. I'm sorry if I misinterpreted.
If you are working with pressures that could destroy a SCH 40 PVC tank, do you really want to be applying those pressures to a dart?
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#11
Posted 28 December 2008 - 10:47 PM
Super Glue when cured is acrylic. I wouldn't trust it to hold a pressurized seem together.
If you want to make any air-tank that can withstand pressure without having to use PVC cement then you will need to design it so that it's held together with threaded rods and hex nuts with retaining plates. Most high-pressure valves are held together with screws and sealed with gaskets.
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