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#1 Jacob Harris

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Posted 08 November 2008 - 03:03 PM

My ACE hardware store didn't have a #49 spring, in fact, springs that low in number where way to small for a NF. Now the bigger springs that looked to be the correct size for the NF had a 3 digit number to them. I should have taken down the measurements for the spring before I went to the ACE store, but I didn't, figured that I could pick up a spring that was labeled 49! With that being said, i'm going to go try again some time later, with measurements for the spring in hand this time! Heh, I even tried looking for the caulk saver material used for making stefans, well they had some, but it wasn't 1/2", it was much smaller. I'm headed out to the Wal-mart along with Lowes to get a nightfinder pistol, 3/0 fishing weights, 1/2" caulk saver, and 1/2" CPVC schedule 80. Could anyone comment on my shopping list before I go and buy this stuff? Thanks

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Posted 08 November 2008 - 03:07 PM

My ACE hardware store didn't have a #49 spring, in fact, springs that low in number where way to small for a NF. Now the bigger springs that looked to be the correct size for the NF had a 3 digit number to them. I should have taken down the measurements for the spring before I went to the ACE store, but I didn't, figured that I could pick up a spring that was labeled 49! With that being said, i'm going to go try again some time later, with measurements for the spring in hand this time! Heh, I even tried looking for the caulk saver material used for making stefans, well they had some, but it wasn't 1/2", it was much smaller. I'm headed out to the Wal-mart along with Lowes to get a nightfinder pistol, 3/0 fishing weights, 1/2" caulk saver, and 1/2" CPVC schedule 80. Could anyone comment on my shopping list before I go and buy this stuff? Thanks

Jacob


Well unless you have specific darts that fir in CPVC, don't buy a ton of it. And A few springs I bought were in the 700 range. Try out different springs. We can't give you every little detail. You should try the thinnest wall CPVC. Other than that, just ry out different things or listen to other people who might post here
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#3 Jacob Harris

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Posted 08 November 2008 - 03:14 PM

Well unless you have specific darts that fir in CPVC, don't buy a ton of it. And A few springs I bought were in the 700 range. Try out different springs. We can't give you every little detail. You should try the thinnest wall CPVC. Other than that, just ry out different things or listen to other people who might post here


Ok, I figured there would be some experimentation to it B). I've searched for hours and hours on barrel material and measurements for the barrel. I have come up with 4" on barrel length, but I just wasn't sure about the inside diameter. Ohh yea, when I dry the stefan material in the dryer, will they get smaller? As in the width, i'm not worried much about the length. Actually, at this point I think it would be better for me to make my own stefans first, then get measurements on those before I get a barrel and whatnot. Sorry about that, I didn't realize that until I actually wrote my plan out! haha.

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Posted 08 November 2008 - 03:23 PM

You can also go to Home Depot and get the handyman 9713. I believe the dimensions you are looking for are 4" x .75" I.D. x .080 wire diameter, but that's off the top of my head.

Also, you may want to add epoxy to that shopping list. If you are going to use that powerful of a spring, you will need to re-enforce the nf a little to keep it from breaking.
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Posted 08 November 2008 - 03:54 PM

Ok, I figured there would be some experimentation to it B).

There definitely will be, as with all things nerfy.

I have come up with 4" on barrel length, but I just wasn't sure about the inside diameter.

Somewhere from 3-5" will be good. If you have no spring replacement, go with a shorter barrel, and if you have a strong spring and/or very good fitting darts, go with a longer one.

Ohh yea, when I dry the stefan material in the dryer, will they get smaller? As in the width, i'm not worried much about the length.

Usually, when you heat the foam in the dryer it gets wider, not smaller. I've never seen the length been affected, though.

Actually, at this point I think it would be better for me to make my own stefans first, then get measurements on those before I get a barrel and whatnot.

I can tell you right now that's a good idea. You're looking for a snug, but not so tight you have to twist it in, fit for spring guns, and a semi-loose fit, but not so much that it falls out of your barrel, for air-powered guns. I really recommend getting some of the foam from here and some thickwall PETG from One Man Clan or Mod Man(on eBay). This foam has a snug, almost tight fit in thickwall OMC (or Mod Man) PETG. Perfect for springers.

Hope this helps!

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Posted 09 November 2008 - 12:36 AM

Brass barrels, AR-15 recoil spring cut in 1/2 and self-nested, excess trimmed. And aluminum sheeting to reinforce it.
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#7 Jacob Harris

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Posted 09 November 2008 - 12:51 AM

Usually, when you heat the foam in the dryer it gets wider, not smaller. I've never seen the length been affected, though.

I can tell you right now that's a good idea. You're looking for a snug, but not so tight you have to twist it in, fit for spring guns, and a semi-loose fit, but not so much that it falls out of your barrel, for air-powered guns. I really recommend getting some of the foam from here and some thickwall PETG from One Man Clan or Mod Man(on eBay). This foam has a snug, almost tight fit in thickwall OMC (or Mod Man) PETG. Perfect for springers.

Hope this helps!

---Salmon



Thanks for that help salmon! I got some 1/2" foam at lowes, after looking down the aisles many times! I found it! hahah I was so happy to find it. I bought 20ft for about $3. I then went to wal-mart and picked up a NF for about $8, and some 3/0 fishing weights for about $2. I'm going to break out the dremel tomorrow and take out the air restrictors. If you guys want, I can document the whole adventure with my DSLR, and have some really high quality pictures.

You can also go to Home Depot and get the handyman 9713. I believe the dimensions you are looking for are 4" x .75" I.D. x .080 wire diameter, but that's off the top of my head.

Also, you may want to add epoxy to that shopping list. If you are going to use that powerful of a spring, you will need to re-enforce the nf a little to keep it from breaking.


Thanks for that :). Problem is, I don't have a local home depot! haha, my closest home depot is about an hour away sadly. Thanks for the measurements though!
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