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#1 Spaztic 75

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 12:43 PM

Pretty simple really, just wanting some feedback. I thought overall they had a good movie with a graphics job that could blend with the picture( aside from the unified walking in armies). Although there were a few bits that could cause confusion or annoiance.
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Posted 22 December 2003 - 12:55 PM

I thought it was a great movie. Jackson really stayed with the book, making only a couple of mistakes.
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One I really noticed was when Golumn got Frodo to make Sam go away. Nothing like that happened in the book. Also, those statues in front of the orc tower? In the book, those statues only opened the gate when the Ring was near. Finally, there were two messed up parts at the camp:
1.) Aragorn had the sword with him the entire time, and he got it fixed the first time that he went to Rivendell. Elrond did NOT bring him the fixed sword.
2.) Aragorn already knew what the path was: Galadriel had told him, "When in doubt, follow the Path Of The Dead." No one told him what it was.
I thought it was very good. I really liked the part where Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli jump out of the boats, and the dead follow. I liked the fight scene between the Nasgul (Ring Wraiths, for those of you who don't know what the hell I'm talking about.) King and the Rohan King's daughter, whose name momentarily escapes me. Definetly worth seeing.

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 01:57 PM

God, that movie was fucking beautiful. I went with two of my ladyfriends and they were bawling the entire time. I swear I felt half a tear in the corner of my left eye at the end. The movie was an absolutely perfect ending. I got chills during the huge battles just because it had such an Effeminate feel to it. Samwise is a fat peice of shit and the orc leader bore an uncanny resemblence to Sloth. No, rather, he was sloth. Pippin and Merry were so cute in their little baby armor, running around with the big kids. Legolas was pretty badass for a girlyboy, with his twinkle toes. Such a show off. Aragorn is rugged and Liv Tyler is so fucking gorgeous, how I'd like to nibble those pointy ears of hers...mmmmmmm...
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Posted 22 December 2003 - 02:29 PM

Has anyone considered the resemblence of the oliphant stuff to the battle of hoth?
Anyways, they left out my favorite part (again, poor Tom Bombabdil). I was worried through the whole movie that the weren't going to have any of the scourning of the shire. They got half way through the movie and finally caught up with the third book in regards to Frodo and Sam and a bout a quarter of the movie in regards to everyone else. I was fairly worried at that point. I thought that whol aragorn king bit would was the end and then i would have been really disapoionted, but at least they had some of the book ending (which is about a third of the book after the ring is destroyed).
I was a little disappointed by changes in character, but there wasn't too much. Besideswhich I was expecting it after the second movie.
But all in all it was pretty amazing stuff, and I was fairly satisfied all in all. Sad that its over though.
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Posted 22 December 2003 - 02:57 PM

Oh yeah, pretty much rocked.


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I didn't mind so much the deviations from the book. Frodo getting rid of Sam, Elrond bringing Andúril, how Aragon learned of the paths of the dead, etc. My minor gripes had to do with the way some scenes were handled and a few of the things that got cut.

Gripes:

Denethor was shown to be quite insane. PJ didn't show us why he was insane. Important point.

The confrontation at Orthanc was left out. Very unfortunate, though I understand they filmed at least 10 minutes of Saruman and Wormtongue that may make it into the extended edition. Which leads to...

Pippin and the palantir. His motivations were less than clear because of the chopped scene at Isengard. And why oh why didn't they film it from his perspective? I would have much preferred seeing what Pippin saw in the palantir rather than seeing him bouncing around the fucking room with a flaming bowling ball.

Thought the opening scene with Smeagol and Deagol was rough at best. Smeagol was far too gollum-like before he even got the ring. He was supposed to be a more-or-less normal guy.

Non-Gripes:

The battle for Plennor Fields exceeded all my expectations. Way Too Cool.

Dead people rock.

These people can act! Éowyn in particular was fantastic in this film. All the hobbits were great.

Prerequisite nifty Legolas scene for the fangirls.

Gandalf kicking some ass with sword and staff at the gates of Minas Tirith.

Witch-King of Angmar gets serious screen time.

As previously mentioned, Aragorn and company hopping out of the ships with the spirit warriors in tow.

Overall I thought it was a fitting conclusion to a nearly perfect film adaptation. PJ deserves to get rich on this one. Can't wait for the extended edition box set.
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Posted 22 December 2003 - 03:09 PM

I thought it was good except the ending was soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo long and tedious.
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Posted 22 December 2003 - 03:54 PM

The ending was good, my favorite part was the battle in gondor.That orc commader was....cool.
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Posted 22 December 2003 - 04:17 PM

I thought it was good except the ending was soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo long and tedious.

I actually heard they wrote books based on the movies. You might want to read them, asshat.
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Posted 22 December 2003 - 04:51 PM

I did read them asshat, but they still made the ending to long. I mean they didn't even include the Part of freeing the Shire so there.
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Posted 22 December 2003 - 05:01 PM

It was friggen' annioing the way Gollum/Smeagol wouldn't die. For crying out loud he dropped down a cliff, they beat him blind, and he still had enough fight to bite Froto's finger off before dieing. I agree with the whole Denethor insanity thing, my friend didn't have a clue why he would do some of the things he did. I liked the way Archer dude(name exapes me presently) took down the elephant and the two hobbits charging forward in the final battle. Aside from that this was one of the most kick ass movies in a while.
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Posted 22 December 2003 - 05:04 PM

PJ has said for two years that the scouring of the Shire wouldn't be in the movie.

As much as I like the books I don't mind him leaving that out.

I would have actually preferred a bit more ends tied up at the end of the movie. At least they could have given Éowyn a bit more closure.
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Posted 22 December 2003 - 05:11 PM

The reason Denethor was crazy was because he had one of the crystal ball things, like Sauroman. Sauron warped his mind.
And if they did have the scouring of the shire, the movie would have been four hours long.
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Posted 22 December 2003 - 05:18 PM

Simply fucking phenomenal.



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Allthough they did change the way gollum was trying to kill sam and frodo. In the books he leads them to a troll camp where every one gets beaten senseless. The chapter name is out of the pan and into the fire, check it out. No friggin spiders. And I agree Cx, he did know what the road was previously, but for friggin iliderate people who only see the movies, they need to explain things. My only gripe is they made the part where the whole crew is getting on the boat at the end of the movie way to fucking long. They seriously did not need all that god dang crying and bullshit. All that was needed was a tear, a hug, and a good bye. THE END over all, best fucking movie. Were those actors of the hobbits and Gimli just short ? or were the other actors tall ? or was there virtual shit done ?
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Posted 22 December 2003 - 05:23 PM

I did read them asshat, but they still made the ending to long. I mean they didn't even include the Part of freeing the Shire so there.

Yeah, okay, the ending did drag a little bit. I liked every second of the movie though. ...asshat...
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Posted 22 December 2003 - 06:39 PM

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Ok, so the ending was nessecary seeing as the others didn't really have one. You have to realize that if they could, they would have made one long movie because in fact the books were really only one book....or....eh...6 really. My point being, out of all three it was the only one to actually have a real ending, if they hadn't ended it that way, I wouldn't like it. I feel that most people who bitch about the ending don't like movies, they like to watch people get the fuck beat out of them. I myself am an academy film fan. I like "good" movies, that most people bitch about and say sucks. Oh well.

Anyway. Crystal ball things? Palantir. Say it with me, Palantir. Archer guy? Legolas. Say it. Legolas. Kings daughter? Eowyn. Ok you know the drill.

I really liked it. I'm not a big fan of the books, read them, didn't shit myself or anything. Now Rotk almost did give me a small hemerage in the theater though. Action was non stop untill the end and they tied it all up very nicely. I was impressed.

One question though, what the hell was that white light shooting out of Minas Morgul?

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 09:17 PM

Allthough they did change the way gollum was trying to kill sam and frodo. In the books he leads them to a troll camp where every one gets beaten senseless. The chapter name is out of the pan and into the fire, check it out. No friggin spiders.

Wow dude, out of the pan into the fire is from the Hobbit. And there were spiders in both the hobbit and lord of the rings. Shelob (the big spider in Lord of the Rings) is in the second book, but the third movie.

Correct me if i am wrong, but Denethor was crazy because
1. Baramir was dead
1.5. Faramir was probably dead
2. Gondor was screwed
3. Aragorn was comming to kick him out
4. Gandalf was in charge of the ring, and Denethor thought Gandalf was being stupid counting on Frodo.

I thought the movie made him to much of an ass in the beggining. I mean he was trying to save mina tirith in the beggining. But as he had more and more conflict he began to slowly lost interst in doing anything about it.

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 09:25 PM

I saw it like 3 weeks ago and on sat.
I thought it was great. It wouldn't have been that hard to include the confrontation and Isengard but the freeing the shire would have taken a while to do.
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Posted 22 December 2003 - 10:29 PM

Correct me if i am wrong, but Denethor was crazy because
1. Baramir was dead
1.5. Faramir was probably dead
2. Gondor was screwed
3. Aragorn was comming to kick him out
4. Gandalf was in charge of the ring, and Denethor thought Gandalf was being stupid counting on Frodo.

That and he had a Palantir and Sauron was eating his mind... nice, nice, very nice.

Re Shelob: Wask, what you smoking?
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Posted 22 December 2003 - 11:15 PM

I saw it on Satuday with my GF, and loved every second of it. I knew going in that PJ would make changes, I accepted it and came to watch a movie based on the books, not the books turned verbatum into a movie. It was well done, and uber cool. The only hard part about watching the RTOK is there is no part of the movie where you can conveniently leave to use a rest room. Yes it's long but once it gets going you don't want to leave your seat for a second.
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Posted 23 December 2003 - 03:28 PM

Heh heh, "what are YOU smoking ?"

I guess I gort my tolkien confused, just let crawl into my damn sub-optimal dark corner and sob.
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Posted 23 December 2003 - 04:55 PM

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Merry: I know you've run out. You smoke too much, C.
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Posted 23 December 2003 - 08:00 PM

Definitely saw it the day it came out and refused to drink anything for three hours prior to the movie just so I wouldn't have to leave the theatre during the movie. When I got up, my leg didn't work right, but the movie was good. It was worth it.
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Posted 24 December 2003 - 01:20 AM

Gimli: That still only counts as one!
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Posted 24 December 2003 - 01:35 AM

Gimli: That still only counts as one!

That scene is awesome.
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Posted 24 December 2003 - 02:23 AM

Were those actors of the hobbits and Gimli just short ? or were the other actors tall ? or was there virtual shit done ?

All the actors were about the same height, the hobbit actors were slightly shorter. In fact, the actor that played Gimli was the tallest of all the actors in the fellowship, at 6'1''. There were tons of visual effects, with virtual shit, the use of midgets, and the use of a 7' tall guy. It's in the Fellowship of the Ring dvd.
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