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#1 Noodleownz

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Posted 30 June 2008 - 04:02 PM

So as some of you know ILNO is coming soon(I'm hosting it)
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And I plan on using my AT2K. So I did a CPVC barrel replacement and was happy. It's now a singled AT2K. I've heard people say they have gotten 70-80 with a singled AT2K, so I couldn't wait to go outside and try mine out. Boy does it suck. It shoots 35-40". I don't know what I did wrong. My gun has all its parts intact and where they are supposed to be and there is no air leak. So I don't get what the problem is! Help is gladly appreciated.

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Posted 30 June 2008 - 04:11 PM

Is it plugged? Are you using stefans? How long is your barrel? I usually get about 70 ft with mine.
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 04:13 PM

You'll have to give us more information if we're to help.

Are you using stock darts or Stefans?
How long is the barrel?
If you're using Stefans are they very tight in the barrel or a nice fit?
If you're using Stefans what are they weighted with? How long are they? Are they decently made or shitty?
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 04:14 PM

I hope you didn't make the same mistake as you did with your big blast... CPVC = stefans. PVC = stock darts.
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 04:18 PM

Unless it's plugged, it's not going to give amazing an performance. If you plug it, make sure you try not to pump more than 6 times. You'll feel when the air chamber is full. I over-pumped, and ruptured my goo tube. There are other factors to why your ranges are off. Perhaps the CPVC is too tight for your stefans?
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 04:19 PM

You'll have to give us more information if we're to help.

Are you using stock darts or Stefans?
How long is the barrel?
If you're using Stefans are they very tight in the barrel or a nice fit?
If you're using Stefans what are they weighted with? How long are they? Are they decently made or shitty?

Stock Darts
7 in. or so.
Tight
I want Stefans badly. I just need a hot glue gun.

oodalumps: I've never seen people use PVC with an AT2k.

I am using CPVC.
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 04:34 PM

oodalumps: I've never seen people use PVC with an AT2k.

I am using CPVC.


Barrel material isn't as dependent on the gun as its fit on your darts. You could use anything with a 2k as long as it fits your ammo well.

7" is too long for stock darts because they're not going down into the barrel anyway. Unless you're using streamlines the only part of the darts that's in the barrel is the 3" of foam so you should either switch to Stefans or switch over to a crayola and PVC setup because that will allow the foam to be snug in the crayola and the tip of the dart to be snug in the PVC. If you do that and plug the pump it should get about 60-70' and be very accurate.
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 04:41 PM

oodalumps: I've never seen people use PVC with an AT2k.

If you're using stock darts, then you want PVC. Do a Crayola mod, and then slide the PVC over it. The dart will be held in place by the fins of the marker barrel, so you can run. Th eonly problem is that you can get enough pressure that you'll rupture stock darts. Sticking some drinking straw in them can help.

Or, go to a dollar store and buy a low-melt glue gun so you can make stefans. At worst, you can get a cheap one from a craft store for $2.

Edit: Yeah, what NM said.

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Posted 30 June 2008 - 05:22 PM

Stock Darts
7 in. or so.
Tight
I want Stefans badly. I just need a hot glue gun.

oodalumps: I've never seen people use PVC with an AT2k.

I am using CPVC.

Didn't you learn a thing from your problem with the Big Blast? Or did you completely ignore what everybody said in that thread? Be glad people are repeating themselves for you, and this time you better read and remember what they say.
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 07:53 PM

Stock Darts
7 in. or so.
Tight
I want Stefans badly. I just need a hot glue gun.

oodalumps: I've never seen people use PVC with an AT2k.

I am using CPVC.

Didn't you learn a thing from your problem with the Big Blast? Or did you completely ignore what everybody said in that thread? Be glad people are repeating themselves for you, and this time you better read and remember what they say.

I remembered. It's just that I didn't see many people, if any put pvc in their at2k. I guess I should cut up some of my at2k to fit the pvc?
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 10:13 PM

Sometimes, when I have no barrel material that works right, I role up a sheet of printer paper perfectly fit for my dart. Then I duct tape it all the way down and glue it on. We all know something as simple and fragile as this could only last a week at most. I use this as test material because when you cut up $6 worth of brass to find it doesn't work right, it kind of pisses you off. I do this to a lot of my guns before I put the real barrels on. The ranges are great, The barrel is relatively durable (as far as paper goes), and to this day I still have a quad barreled AT2K with paper barrels that I made last summer. And it shoots 90' level and 120' angled with streamline darts.

My point here is, if you're unsure about if your barrel works or will work, use a simple piece of paper to test it with. Now once you've done this, you can figure out, "is my barrel to tight? too loose?" "Oh no, it's too long!" Well guess what? Its paper, just cut it!

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 01:00 PM

Sometimes, when I have no barrel material that works right, I role up a sheet of printer paper perfectly fit for my dart. Then I duct tape it all the way down and glue it on. We all know something as simple and fragile as this could only last a week at most. I use this as test material because when you cut up $6 worth of brass to find it doesn't work right, it kind of pisses you off. I do this to a lot of my guns before I put the real barrels on. The ranges are great, The barrel is relatively durable (as far as paper goes), and to this day I still have a quad barreled AT2K with paper barrels that I made last summer. And it shoots 90' level and 120' angled with streamline darts.

My point here is, if you're unsure about if your barrel works or will work, use a simple piece of paper to test it with. Now once you've done this, you can figure out, "is my barrel to tight? too loose?" "Oh no, it's too long!" Well guess what? Its paper, just cut it!

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I might try this :) . Well I added a 7' piece of PVC to it and it shoots... 20 feet! It still sucks. What should I do?
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 01:05 PM

Did you plug the OPV? And if you just put PVC over the CPVC, you messed up again.



Take off the CPVC and Glue on PVC, then push your dart to the bottom of the barrel. That should get you some range.


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Posted 01 July 2008 - 01:14 PM

Did you plug the OPV? And if you just put PVC over the CPVC, you messed up again.



Take off the CPVC and Glue on PVC, then push your dart to the bottom of the barrel. That should get you some range.


I think people have already told you what I just repeated...

No, I completly took off the cpvc and put on pvc. Yet I'm only getting 20" with pvc.
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 03:44 PM

Your gun is totally messed up then.
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 05:23 PM

I might try this :lol: . Well I added a 7' piece of PVC to it and it shoots... 20 feet! It still sucks. What should I do?


7 feet is way too long for any barrel man.
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 05:52 PM

You haven't answered the question yet, did you plug your overrelease valve? If you didn't do so if you want your desired ranges.
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 06:33 PM

Plug the pump, pump it four times, and use a 12" not-too-tight-fitting barrel. I use it and get about 90' consistently.
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Posted 02 July 2008 - 07:14 AM

I did plug the OPV valve.

Ok, Longshot Wielder just said that he would mod my at2k for 10 dollars + shipping. Is he legit? Should I do this? :cry:
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Posted 02 July 2008 - 11:59 AM

I did plug the OPV valve.

Ok, Longshot Wielder just said that he would mod my at2k for 10 dollars + shipping. Is he legit? Should I do this? :cry:



No. Why would you send it to him to "mod" what you have already done. you just have to figure out your barrel situation. I doubt he is going to do much for you there. (I wouldn't trust him to mod my gun. Or anyone that spends half their time here spamming us with WTB Xbow threads. If I were to pass off a mod to someone else I would make sure they had shown that they actually have exp and know what they are doing.)
Figure out how to make stefans and load them as far down the barrel as you can get them. That will make the most difference in your ranges. if you are just loading the darts to the front of the barrel they get launched out before making use of all the air being put thru the barrel. Thats why you are getting shitty ranges. What you need is someone to make you a decent barrel. I can make you one that will front load stock micros (ok range) And rear load stefans (GREAT ranges). It is 9/16th in thinwall nested in PVC.

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Posted 02 July 2008 - 12:43 PM

I did plug the OPV valve.

Ok, Longshot Wielder just said that he would mod my at2k for 10 dollars + shipping. Is he legit? Should I do this? :cry:


Don't do that...He doesn't seem a like a top of the line modder. I searched his name in the modification's section and he's only made one thread,this one which ended getting closed due to him just copying other's work in all of it. I haven't seen any of his gun's other than one in the modifications/paintjobs topic and it was just a nitefinder.

If you can't make stefans or find any good FBR anywhere, just make conveted stefans. All you need is a stock dart, and some bb's or a 3/0 fishing weight. Then use 17/32 brass and your problem is solved.
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Posted 02 July 2008 - 04:41 PM

Sometimes, when I have no barrel material that works right, I role up a sheet of printer paper perfectly fit for my dart. Then I duct tape it all the way down and glue it on. We all know something as simple and fragile as this could only last a week at most. I use this as test material because when you cut up $6 worth of brass to find it doesn't work right, it kind of pisses you off. I do this to a lot of my guns before I put the real barrels on. The ranges are great, The barrel is relatively durable (as far as paper goes), and to this day I still have a quad barreled AT2K with paper barrels that I made last summer. And it shoots 90' level and 120' angled with streamline darts.

My point here is, if you're unsure about if your barrel works or will work, use a simple piece of paper to test it with. Now once you've done this, you can figure out, "is my barrel to tight? too loose?" "Oh no, it's too long!" Well guess what? Its paper, just cut it!

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I might try this :rolleyes: . Well I added a 7' piece of PVC to it and it shoots... 20 feet! It still sucks. What should I do?


Are you still putting the dart in the front of the barrel? Make sure it goes to the back of the barrel when you load it.
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Posted 03 July 2008 - 01:16 PM

Sometimes, when I have no barrel material that works right, I role up a sheet of printer paper perfectly fit for my dart. Then I duct tape it all the way down and glue it on. We all know something as simple and fragile as this could only last a week at most. I use this as test material because when you cut up $6 worth of brass to find it doesn't work right, it kind of pisses you off. I do this to a lot of my guns before I put the real barrels on. The ranges are great, The barrel is relatively durable (as far as paper goes), and to this day I still have a quad barreled AT2K with paper barrels that I made last summer. And it shoots 90' level and 120' angled with streamline darts.

My point here is, if you're unsure about if your barrel works or will work, use a simple piece of paper to test it with. Now once you've done this, you can figure out, "is my barrel to tight? too loose?" "Oh no, it's too long!" Well guess what? Its paper, just cut it!

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I might try this :) . Well I added a 7' piece of PVC to it and it shoots... 20 feet! It still sucks. What should I do?


Are you still putting the dart in the front of the barrel? Make sure it goes to the back of the barrel when you load it.

The micro dart goes all the way down the barrel.
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Posted 03 July 2008 - 02:32 PM

Ok I didn't have my own camera I've modded a bigblast and just ask Ryan, cmdrmac , ice if i did my part of the deal when we did buisness and I'll give noodle a refund if it doest shoot any better.

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Posted 03 July 2008 - 06:54 PM

Ok I didn't have my own camera I've modded a bigblast and just ask Ryan, cmdrmac , ice if i did my part of the deal when we did buisness and I'll give noodle a refund if it doest shoot any better.


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