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#1 cxwq

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Posted 11 December 2003 - 04:37 PM

I've always been somewhat against integrations, though I can see that they are obviously a very popular way to make up for the shortcomings of a particular primary. The main downside for me is that my primary guns (at3k, eab) don't lend themselves particularly well to integration. Besides that, my favorite load has always been eab/ssII akimbo without holster so I can point my guns in different directions if the situation dictates.

The only integration I've ever faced in an actual war that I thought was particularly effective was Groove's Xbow/SF. In your opinions, how much do integrations really help you in wars?
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#2 Groove

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Posted 11 December 2003 - 04:58 PM

I would argue that my Guru wasn't really an integration, although that's the namesake it seems to have acquired over time. It's quite simple really, which is why I love(d) it, and why I'm rebuilding it with brand new parts. Thanks for the compliment anyhow, C - I 'preciate it.

Around here there are few integrations that have worked particularly well. Some of you might remember LordFlasheart's Senor Biggles, which was sloppy in construction but powerful in nature, especially when he loaded a few shorter stefans down the barrel and used it as a flak cannon. I'd say the effective integration is one that the player knows how to use...not just simply point and shoot, it's more than that when you merge two guns into one, I think it turns into a finesse (I really do mean that in the most heterosexual way possible...really). It really depends on what kind of integration it is. I worked the Xbow and SF together because I was tired of worrying about a sidearm, so I just made it part of the main weapon, and it worked out quite well with dealing with multiple distances and letting off a few fast shots.

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#3 Langley

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Posted 11 December 2003 - 05:49 PM

The main downside for me is that my primary guns (at3k, eab) don't lend themselves particularly well to integration.

The guns that you use generally wouldn't need to be integrated with anything anyway. They have good rate of fire, and decent range. The only reason I would really integrate two guns would be to compensate for the low rate of fire of a couple of long-range guns.
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#4 Alexthebeast

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Posted 11 December 2003 - 06:09 PM

I use my Foxfire, It's a tornado/1500/750 combo, and with the 1500 (has 14" barrel) I can hit my friend's hand from 70ft 8/10 times. I use that with my either SSII or LnL for crossdraw side arm, and I'm unstoppable.
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#5 Warlock

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Posted 11 December 2003 - 06:47 PM

The only integrations I saw that were the best were Evil's Daemon and Cain. Such a shame to see them leave NJ... :(
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Posted 11 December 2003 - 07:00 PM

All of the freak integrated mods I have done envolved SM1500 guts. It was my favorite gun to work with, so naturally I liked seeing how I could efficiently attach it to other guns. Most integrations disrupt the weight of the gun, putting too much on the front or back, and frequently have tigger issues. the ONLY integration I liked was when I pretty much made a MINI binky by strapping 2 of those pocket blasters (i plugged the pump hole) on either side of one of my old school SM1500s (which had been modded to perfection as a single shot) the trigger buttons were at perfect reach, and i actually used them quite frequently. Because I only had one main shot, if i missed and was being chased, those two little wimpy shots were great for the close range, and for rushes. Sadly that gun was STOLEN from our tables during our lunch break (was that a LANO or Armageddon?), because we were smart enough to leave a lot of our stuff unnattended. Oh well. ANYHOW, i beleive minor integration of LIGHT EASY ACCESS components are useful for one shot guns, but in the day and age of AT3k's taking over as the dominating assult main, there doesnt seem to be as much of a need. (oh and I also feel that the crossbow having a extra shot and/or pistel holders does work)

Edited by ShortShit, 11 December 2003 - 07:11 PM.

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Posted 11 December 2003 - 10:16 PM

I love integrations! Its like modifying a nerf gun with another nerf gun! They'r not at all homemade like. Nerf guns are extreemely limited, so takeing the good aspects of one gun and adding them to the good aspects of another can negate the downfalls of bother guns. For example, take the range of one and add the rate of fire with another and your set. My max shot with a air tech turret is a great example of integration goodness, not to brag.
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Posted 11 December 2003 - 11:20 PM

I like my kodos(Super Soaker 105/SM5k)

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#9 superadaquabat

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Posted 12 December 2003 - 12:02 AM

Are both of the tanks connected to one pump? Is it hard to pump at all? I mean it seems the bottom barrel might get in the way? But thats things sure! got range!

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#10 Gamefreak

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Posted 12 December 2003 - 09:55 AM

No, theres a pump on the back. The lower barrel is removeable so it dosen't really get in the way.
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Posted 12 December 2003 - 11:15 AM

What material did you use for that barrel? And I don't think it's straight.
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Posted 12 December 2003 - 01:10 PM

And I don't think it's straight.



Wow, that's the understatement of the century.

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 01:53 PM

I can see the sense in integrations, as long as they don't get out of hand, like a few guns i've seen where you would need at least ten hands to operate with any form of effinecy. People need to know when to draw the line, i can see having two guns integrated to compensate for one's weakness, but straping 7 guns together with duct tape is going a little far i think
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