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#1 Alexthebeast

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Posted 08 December 2003 - 05:24 PM

This is my original TTG mod. I cut out all the excess area around the ammo holders, and right where the plunger meets the barrel. I then sanded down and taped up the holes. Then I added a peice of 1/4 brass strapped to the bottom of the gun. I then slid a rf20 turret over it. I just rotate the turret after every shot and I have a 20- shot gun! The seal isn't all that great right now, so I'm going to work on that a bit. Because of the not-so great seal, range is only 45 feet.

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Edited by Alexthebeast, 08 December 2003 - 05:27 PM.

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Posted 08 December 2003 - 05:38 PM

I'm not sure what to say... wait I got it, it's orignal!

Edited by Gamefreak, 08 December 2003 - 05:38 PM.

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#3 Alexthebeast

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Posted 08 December 2003 - 05:41 PM

Dude, 20 40ft shots, and it's a cocking gun. Hel, as soon as I get the seal fixed up, it will probably get around 65-70ft.
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Posted 08 December 2003 - 05:56 PM

I know it's awesome I was lost for words.
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Posted 08 December 2003 - 05:58 PM

Yeah...um...that's original alright. Original, but not practical what-so-ever IMO.

20x ft. shots, but you need to prime each shot. I doubt you'll get anything close to 75 ft. with that thing (if you do, mad props)- simply because of the ergonomics of the gun: you slapped a rotating barrel piece from a fully-automatic air-powered gun and put it on a single shot spring-powered gun.

I'm sorry dude, I just don't like it...don't really know how to say that in a nice way. You're going through too much trouble for a gun that probably isn't worth all the work to do.
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#6 Alexthebeast

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Posted 08 December 2003 - 06:02 PM

Yes, normally. But I replaced the spring with a first-shot spring (very strong), before, with a basic brass mod, it got very close to 100'
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Posted 08 December 2003 - 06:08 PM

That's insane. Having 20 rounds on that small pistol is a great idea and should save A LOT of time. Sweet mod Alex.
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Posted 08 December 2003 - 06:27 PM

I like it because the priming time is quick and the clip size is large. Good job. :blink:
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Posted 08 December 2003 - 06:37 PM

Okay. I'm going to sound like a real critic here, but... no.

Good Thangs:
Fast Shot... maybe
Looks Horrendous (fear factor)

Not-So-Good Thangs:
You need to replace the rubberband each time you shoot
You only have 10 shots, as it is impossibly to get the barrel to both the inner and outer ring
Bad seal
Looks Horrendous
NO

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#10 Alexthebeast

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Posted 08 December 2003 - 07:03 PM

Okay. I'm going to sound like a real critic here, but... no.

Good Thangs:
Fast Shot... maybe
Looks Horrendous (fear factor)

Not-So-Good Thangs:
You need to replace the rubberband each time you shoot
You only have 10 shots, as it is impossibly to get the barrel to both the inner and outer ring
Bad seal
Looks Horrendous
NO

-Coop

To the not-so-good things:

The rubber band was only temporary as I took the pic, it now has 4 extention springs that rest in the hollow space inside the turret

I actually have 20. The brass is taped to FBR, so can just squish the pipe down to get to the inner ring of barrels.

As I said, I am working on the bad seal, and one trip to the h-ware store sould fix that.

As for the look, I will be painting it soon, and It will look quite a bit like a sawed-off tommy gun, hopefully
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Posted 08 December 2003 - 08:16 PM

Alright, but I'm still not entirely convinced. My attempts at this have failed... horribly. Good luck with yours, however.

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#12 Alexthebeast

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Posted 08 December 2003 - 09:46 PM

Mine seems to be working fine.
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Posted 09 December 2003 - 06:39 AM

Cool! Hopefully you can succeed where others have failed... etc.

It does look awesome has a sawed-off pistol, so maybe I'll try it with that and see what happens. As you can see in NHQ's "Hazel: TTG Mod" or whatever topic, my TTG barrel is a wee bit too long to be a pistol any more... :lol:

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Posted 09 December 2003 - 07:17 PM

I actually have 20.  The brass is taped to FBR, so can just squish the pipe down to get to the inner ring of barrels.

so basically, you shoot, you rotate, you push the barrel down so it gets to the inner ring, then you cock it with some sort of third hand, and then you shoot, and then you rotate, and then you un-squish, and then you cock it with that third hand again. how exactly do you use that gun with two hands?

it appears to me that you've taken a spring powered pistol, and turned it into a really small 20 shot contraption. now, with one hand used to hold the gun and aim it, and another hand that has to rotate, then cock, then squish the turret to make the seal properly, i can't imagine that it can be very useful in a war. besides, twenty 40' shots (with an inconsistent and slow ROF depending on how fast you can rotate, cock, squish, aim...) doesn't sound that great. it also appears to not be that strong structurally, meaning you get to deal with it breaking about once or twice every war. what it looks like to me is this: you took two decent guns, and tried to put their good qualities together in a way which made the outcome worse (and uglier) than either was originally...a great success!
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#15 Alexthebeast

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Posted 09 December 2003 - 07:27 PM

I actually have 20.  The brass is taped to FBR, so can just squish the pipe down to get to the inner ring of barrels.

so basically, you shoot, you rotate, you push the barrel down so it gets to the inner ring, then you cock it with some sort of third hand, and then you shoot, and then you rotate, and then you un-squish, and then you cock it with that third hand again. how exactly do you use that gun with two hands?

it appears to me that you've taken a spring powered pistol, and turned it into a really small 20 shot contraption. now, with one hand used to hold the gun and aim it, and another hand that has to rotate, then cock, then squish the turret to make the seal properly, i can't imagine that it can be very useful in a war. besides, twenty 40' shots (with an inconsistent and slow ROF depending on how fast you can rotate, cock, squish, aim...) doesn't sound that great. it also appears to not be that strong structurally, meaning you get to deal with it breaking about once or twice every war. what it looks like to me is this: you took two decent guns, and tried to put their good qualities together in a way which made the outcome worse (and uglier) than either was originally...a great success!

The squish only has to be done 2 times for all 20 shots. When you squish, it kindof "snaps" into place due to ridges it the plastic on the gun it get caught on from where I cut the trigger gaurd. It's really something that's hard to put in workds, but with how i have it, I can empty the thing in 15 seconds. I like it, and as soon as I fix the seal, It should be great.
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#16 ShortShit

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Posted 09 December 2003 - 07:31 PM

I think that its becomes quite top heavy due to the rotational clip system, and it may be an encumberance once in a actual war. If it were more like 6-8ish shots, it might be a more functional mod. (maybe with the AT3k rotational system?) I don't know what would be best, but I like the premise for sure. :-) Good on-yah for trying something new.

Edited by ShortShit, 09 December 2003 - 07:33 PM.

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Posted 09 December 2003 - 08:35 PM

Try to write up a mod on it.
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Posted 10 December 2003 - 05:36 PM

Aye, I did that with the max shot and a air tech 2000 turret. Worked real well until box broke it. Thanks box. It should be fixed easily though. Its really fast and gets a good 80 feet. I only don't like it becaus i don't like aiming with the max shot. That turret seems like overkill to me. Hard to keep track of shots and way heavy. And what good is twenty shots on a pistol with lousy range? If your in the range of accuray, your going to be fumbling around well dodging shots in close combat. You've got no accuracy it seems to me bec ause your barrels are so short.

How are you planning to make a seal? That seams really tough. The air tech turret already has its seal for you and you just have to connect stationary holes together. Good luck with that.
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#19 Alexthebeast

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Posted 10 December 2003 - 06:12 PM

The seal will be made with the magic of o-rings.
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Posted 10 December 2003 - 07:53 PM

It's really something that's hard to put in workds...

my point exactly! it seems unstable because, like you said, it's hard to put in works. oh wait, maybe you said, it's hard to put into words. i guess that means that you won't be able to convince me it's a decent mod, if you can't put it into words or works. whatever you were trying to say there, well, you didn't say it.

That turret seems like overkill to me. Hard to keep track of shots and way heavy. And what good is twenty shots on a pistol with lousy range? If your in the range of accuracy, your going to be fumbling around well dodging shots in close combat. You've got no accuracy it seems to me because your barrels are so short.

i definately agree with evan there, i think if it had about 1/3 to 1/5 as many shots, and got some decent range, then it might be a functional weapon. but as of now i just can't image it even getting 40 feet, or emptying accurately in 15 seconds, or for that matter even shooting accurately at all.

The seal will be made with the magic of o-rings.

i think your kidding yourself about getting a good seal. prove me wrong. if you can record 60' with even 50% accuracy from 60ft on a 2' 4', i will be impressed.

Edited by rawray7, 10 December 2003 - 07:54 PM.

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Posted 11 December 2003 - 12:38 AM

O-rings are magic though...
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Posted 11 December 2003 - 07:20 AM

I stated this on NHQ, but I still don't see how it gets ranges like your describing. You can't be measuring something right. The RF20's barrels aren't even that good, so I can't see it getting 60 with a perfect seal. It just sounds to me like your coming up with answers as you go along, to make it sound better than it is. I'm not saying your lying it just sounds "embellished". I like the idea, and I've thought about similar things myself. I'm currently working on using fast blast barrels, and 2k rotating barrels to do similar things. I really am not saying this in a harsh manner. I'm just saying what things are coming off as to me.
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