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[zaphodB]

On the main page there is a link marked "modifications". The modifications on it are pretty old, and I was wondering if it's function has been replaced by Forsaken's modifications topic. It if has, I would suggest an edit to the topic to include a link to the sticky. Otherwise, the function of that link in extremely outdated.

[Green-Buckshot]

Either that, or you could keep it updated with the latest guns and the mods for them, so people wouldn't have to troll the forums looking for FF, NF, Maverick, Longshot, etc. mods...

[NerfMonkey]

If someone is too lazy to check the topic titled "Modification Directory" when searching for a mod, that's their own fault.

Cxwq hasn't been active for a long time as far as I know, and as such hasn't added any new content to the mods section either. I think he and probably VACC are the only people able to do that, and as neither of them probably have the time to bother you'll just have to deal with the outdated mods. Personally I still enjoy reading the old writeups for something to do.

[mystefansdontflystraight]

Green-Buckshot, on May 10 2008, 11:43 AM, said:

Either that, or you could keep it updated with the latest guns and the mods for them, so people wouldn't have to troll the forums looking for FF, NF, Maverick, Longshot, etc. mods...

There is a mod for the NF in that directory. The one on the main page I mean.

[Green-Buckshot]

mystefansdontflystraight, on May 11 2008, 01:24 PM, said:

Green-Buckshot, on May 10 2008, 11:43 AM, said:

Either that, or you could keep it updated with the latest guns and the mods for them, so people wouldn't have to troll the forums looking for FF, NF, Maverick, Longshot, etc. mods...

There is a mod for the NF in that directory. The one on the main page I mean.

Yeah, I know, but how many people new to NERF have a SF or a LnL? I think we should remove those mods, or just keep them there as a little slice of site history...

[NerfMonkey]

I'm gonna be honest here: getting rid of those old writeups because they're "outdated" is probably the worst idea I've ever heard. I can understand wanting the mods section updated but getting rid of writeups for old guns isn't going to help. Besides, I've owned about half or more of the guns in the mods section and used one of those writeups as a rough guideline on almost every mod I did. They're still good.

[Bomberman]

The mods on that page don't need to be deleted, a lot of them are great. Cxwq's AT3K mod is the one I went with at first, until my AT3K fell out of the car.. But most new members that are even worth being a member could search, find the mod directory, then bookmark it, like I did. I also bookmarked the homemade directory.

[Blasphemy]

I don't think the modifications on that page should be deleted, but it seems weird that we still have a separate section like that. Can't we just put those in topic form, lock them, stick links to them in the Modifications directory, and then delete that section.

[Forsaken angel24]

All of those modifications have already been added to the directory.
I also think the modifications directory should be on the main page.
I would hate for someone to hear about our modifications directory and come here and find that instead.

[Blasphemy]

Forsaken_angel24, on May 20 2008, 10:59 PM, said:

All of those modifications have already been added to the directory.

No, I already knew that. I meant that when you put it in topic form and lock it you link those topics to the modifications directory and kill the Modifications tab on the front page. Then, maybe add a link that says "Modifications Directory" on the front page. Then everybody is happy.

[Omega]

I'm going to toss in a positive vote- it would definitely help newbies into the fold.

Also, I think a revamp of the modifications page may be in order. It would rock if it were formatted like the forums, to give the whole thing a nice sense of continuity, and had sections- "Beginner mods", "Advanced mods", "Discontinued blasters", stuff like that.

[SHADOW HUNTER ALPHA]

It is difficult to categorize mods based on difficulty because everybody has different experience (or lack thereof), tools, and resources. We can agree that AR removals on NFs are basic, and things like the Angel Breech stem from the more difficult group, but there are plenty in between that could easily be miscategorized. It would be better to keep the method of organization we have now (by name), perhaps include a picture of a stock version of each gun in case the name is unknown to the searching modder, and leave it at that.

[badger]

Use the NerfWiki for the pictures reference. I didn't take all of those pictures for nothing.

As for classifying the mods and guns Omega, SHA is right. Most of those that are new to modding are told to do the NF first instread of the LS as the LS is alot harder, but I did it first and had very little trouble. I now people that had a hard time modding their NF and just about every gun they touched, so to classify any gun by it's modification difficulty would be subjective to the skills of the modder.

As for the discontinued section idea, there is no need. Enough people on here constantly keep us informed of what is out and what is gone. No need for a specific section.

The Mods section on the front page needs no work at all. It has worked just fine for years and no one has conplained about it until now. Leave well enough alone.

[Oni Kadaki]

badger, on Jun 12 2008, 10:06 PM, said:

Use the NerfWiki for the pictures reference. I didn't take all of those pictures for nothing.

As for classifying the mods and guns Omega, SHA is right. Most of those that are new to modding are told to do the NF first instread of the LS as the LS is alot harder, but I did it first and had very little trouble. I now people that had a hard time modding their NF and just about every gun they touched, so to classify any gun by it's modification difficulty would be subjective to the skills of the modder.

As for the discontinued section idea, there is no need. Enough people on here constantly keep us informed of what is out and what is gone. No need for a specific section.

The Mods section on the front page needs no work at all. It has worked just fine for years and no one has conplained about it until now. Leave well enough alone.

Regarding classifying mods in terms of difficulty, I agree with Omega. Though you make a good point that difficulty is subjective, the system could be based on general trends. I bet 99% of the users of this board will say that a nitefinder is easier to mod than a longshot, for example, and ideally, a rating system would not discourage people from attempting an ls mod, but merely get that trend across to them.

[SHADOW HUNTER ALPHA]

Oni Kadaki, on Jun 15 2008, 10:47 PM, said:

Regarding classifying mods in terms of difficulty, I agree with Omega. Though you make a good point that difficulty is subjective, the system could be based on general trends. I bet 99% of the users of this board will say that a nitefinder is easier to mod than a longshot, for example, and ideally, a rating system would not discourage people from attempting an ls mod, but merely get that trend across to them.

But there are only a handful, probably less that that, of guns that everyone could reach a single consensus on. The "trends" that you're talking about are either obvious in such a way as to negate the need to officially list them, or are an average based on a large amount of vastly different opinions. The latter would mean that my point was valid, and because there cannot really be a set difficulty for a mod, there is no way to accurately classify them based on how easy or hard one is. Badger and I both completed LS mods as our very first attempts at modding, and found it easy while others may find it too complex or confusing, for example. Some may screw up a Nitefinder mod while others do it automatically because to them it is obvious what needs to be done and how it is best executed. That fact is that difficulty is objective and therefore, apart from the commonly accepted "NF is easy" opinion, there really is no established ground for what the ratings would be. The best way to do it would be to make a poll for each gun, but that would be time consuming and still ineffective.
The best way for someone to tell what they should do mod wise is to pick and complete a mod, judge for themself how difficult it was, and then decide from there what is within their abilities by looking for similar mods and procedures.