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#1 OfAllTheNerf

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Posted 12 April 2008 - 07:48 AM

This is essentially a compilation of all the known Recon mods, but with my own twist and some additions.

Here's a pic of everyone you'll need to complete this mod, plus a Recon (not pictured).

PLEASE DONT POST UNTIL IT IS DONE. THERE WILL BE A 'FINAL PRODUCT' PICTURE AT THE END.

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Specifics,
-4 ĹĒ of ĹĒ PVC
-1Ē PVC end cap
-Epoxy putty

Hereís an internal photo of the cut of stock.

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Now, onto the mod. Unscrew it, and be sure to get these ones:

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Bitch to open up, bitch to get back together. Internals.

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Each side of the cocking handle is attached to the apropriate side of the shell, and are held on by screws which you can probably see in the picture. Now take out the bolt and bolt sled.

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Cut at the line.

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Now take your dremel/drill and drill out the ARs from the longer piece.

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Cut a 1Ē piece of 17/32Ē brass, and begin sanding the AR-half until it fits. Goop it in.

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Now sand out the other side, and then goop the whole thing together.

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To make sure itís going to work, try sliding it into an LS/Recon clip. If it slides without trouble itíll do.

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That piece of brass isnít only acting as a pseudo-coupler, it will also help build up pressure if a dart gets pushed in. But we have to get the dart to push in far enough. Cut along the sharpie.

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Doing this pushes the dart tooth down later, thus allowing the dart to be pushed that much further in. Sure, itís not much, but itís a plus. You could also cut further, but Iím not going to risk ruining the gun. After cutting:

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Now lets start increasing power. First, wrap some e-tape around the plunger tube, as so (it should be fairly thick).

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Then use an exacto knife to cut it down to 1/8Ē.

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Go get the end cap. Putty in a ĺĒ brass stub (I used ĹĒ). This isnít completely necessary, but reduces the chances of the additional spring getting scrunched up if itís small.

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Now Get the black piece which when around the end of the gun, and your 1Ē PVC. Rough end of each up.

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Stick the PVC onto the black piece with some putty. Avoid putting putty over the screw holes. IF you do get some over the screw holes drill it out carefully. This putty gets HARD really fast. Itís like rock after about 30 minutes. (Picture is with the end cap on).

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Be sure to leave the hole the end clean of putty, if you have any inside it clean it out with an exacto knife.

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Now grab your cut off stock and the end cap. Rough up the ends of each.

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Now putty them together.

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Let the putty dry, and then put the gun back together. While youíre replacing everything make sure to get this hole in the bolt sled on the spoke on the cocking handle.

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Finished internals.

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Looks pretty much the same on the outside as it did stock.

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Now grab the black end piece with the PVC on it, and screw it onto the back. Try not to strip the screws, as that would make it impossible to open up again (without drilling them out, which would render the stock mod useless).

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Now all you have to do is place a spring in the back and put the end cap on (the stock part). Depending on the strength of your spring you might need to glue the end cap on, which you probably should anyways. I havenít glued it on just yet, incase I decide to make it removable etc.

A picture with a variety of springs. Iím using the largest one, which I found on a windowsill at the vetsí. Itís pretty strong, and you have to compress it a good three inches to fit it inside the stock.

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Finished product. Donít worry, the duct tape isnít permanent, just until I know which spring I want exactly, or get some industrial strength Velcro to make it removable. Iíve only had it pop off once, but I donít want it to do that in a war. Itís going to get a PJ sometime, and more cosmetic work. Iíll post and major updates as they come.



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Iím convinced that Hasbro designed this just so it couldnít be modified well. I fired off two clips, and they all went around 40-45í. A good dart sometimes landed at 50í. With the dart tooth mod itís gotten more reliable, and with chubbier darts it shoots farther more consistently. I havenít tried with streamlines yet, but when I do Iíll post those ranges.

So it doesnít look like itís ever going to be a good primary. Iíve done literally everything I can think of. I do, however, have to say that for indoor wars this gun could be good. It shoots at a wall 25í away with considerable force, fast enough to make it hard to dodge.

Questions? Comments?

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#2 imaseoulman

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Posted 12 April 2008 - 07:51 AM

Well Done. I think we're making progress.
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Posted 12 April 2008 - 07:56 AM

you mod whore... :unsure:

Great Job. You're really on a roll!
Is it hard to cock with all those springs in it?
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#4 OfAllTheNerf

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Posted 12 April 2008 - 08:07 AM

Well Done. I think we're making progress.

Thank you. If everyone does something small to make this gun better, I'm sure the NIC can make it a decent primary.

you mod whore... :D

Great Job. You're really on a roll!
Is it hard to cock with all those springs in it?


Thanks :unsure:. It actually isn't, which is why I chose the long spring I have. With a TTG spring it's slightly harder, but doesn't add much range. With a ex-3 NF spring it should be relatively easy to cock. Oh, I think I get what you mean. Those aren't all in there, they're just size comparisons and examples of what could be in there... Should've clarified that.

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Edited by OfAllTheNerf, 12 April 2008 - 08:13 AM.

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#5 ompa

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Posted 12 April 2008 - 08:34 AM

Impressive! Nice to see more progress on the addition of a spring, while helping stabilize the stock. Also, nice to see something other than hot glue.

I finally got around to picking up a Recon yesterday, so I figure I'd share a few of my ideas for modding it as well. The case itself is big enough, and the slide has enough of a "pull" to actually integrate a full NF plunger into it. Coupled with something similar to an Angel bolt, I think the Recon might be able to become a rather potent sidearm. However, I've also found that the Recon might be able to accept an even larger plunger; the pull on an NF actually seems to be less than how far the slide moves on the Recon. However, I don't have any of my other springers on me, so I'm not sure of the draw lengths of the various other possible replacements. If anyone knows of a springer with a draw of around 3", know that it might work well with the Recon. Also, the slide could be extended back using fiberglass to engage the plunger from the back end, instead of the current method of the bolt itself pushing the plunger back.

Sadly, I can't think of a whole lot else that could make this gun more usable, other than using a larger diameter homemade plunger, using a similar type of system mentioned above.

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Posted 12 April 2008 - 11:06 AM

Props to you OfAllTheNerf you ARE really on a roll. I might even go to the store today and pick up one. :D
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#7 Forsaken angel24

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Posted 12 April 2008 - 12:20 PM

Good form!
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#8 OfAllTheNerf

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Posted 12 April 2008 - 01:07 PM

Thank you everyone.

Impressive! Nice to see more progress on the addition of a spring, while helping stabilize the stock. Also, nice to see something other than hot glue.

I finally got around to picking up a Recon yesterday, so I figure I'd share a few of my ideas for modding it as well. The case itself is big enough, and the slide has enough of a "pull" to actually integrate a full NF plunger into it. Coupled with something similar to an Angel bolt, I think the Recon might be able to become a rather potent sidearm. However, I've also found that the Recon might be able to accept an even larger plunger; the pull on an NF actually seems to be less than how far the slide moves on the Recon. However, I don't have any of my other springers on me, so I'm not sure of the draw lengths of the various other possible replacements. If anyone knows of a springer with a draw of around 3", know that it might work well with the Recon. Also, the slide could be extended back using fiberglass to engage the plunger from the back end, instead of the current method of the bolt itself pushing the plunger back.

Sadly, I can't think of a whole lot else that could make this gun more usable, other than using a larger diameter homemade plunger, using a similar type of system mentioned above.

~ompa


I know someone did integrate an NF into one of these... I can't remember who though. I'll find a link. But yes, if it had a substantial plunger it could be a good secondary/sidearm, albeit a bit bulky.

Forsaken, thank you. You can expect 1-2 more write-ups this weekend :D .

-OfAll'

Edit: found it.

Edited by OfAllTheNerf, 12 April 2008 - 01:22 PM.

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#9 Bomberman

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Posted 12 April 2008 - 01:08 PM

Good form!

Talk about short, sweet, and to the point...
I really liked this mod. If only I had access to brass, and if only my Recon was'nt in my blaster graveyard... My recon is having a funeral this thursday if anyone would like to come... But man, you are really on a roll, you really have a chance at becoming the one of the new contributors. And, instead of an NF spring in the PVC stock, put an AR 15 recoil spring in there, it is stronger, and I think it might give you a few more feet in range. I am pretty sure that is the type of spring DecitefulSteve used in his spring-in-the-stock mod.
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It's not like that. I put lube on it and its the same. Its just stuck. And when I cock it back it goes farther back then usual. Also I push as hard as I can and it wont go back in. I've tried the methods and they wont work. Also pics are up.

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Posted 12 April 2008 - 01:17 PM

Good form!

Talk about short, sweet, and to the point...
I really liked this mod. If only I had access to brass, and if only my Recon was'nt in my blaster graveyard... My recon is having a funeral this thursday if anyone would like to come... But man, you are really on a roll, you really have a chance at becoming the one of the new contributors. And, instead of an NF spring in the PVC stock, put an AR 15 recoil spring in there, it is stronger, and I think it might give you a few more feet in range. I am pretty sure that is the type of spring DecitefulSteve used in his spring-in-the-stock mod.

A stronger spring would definitely help range. I'm using something thats slightly weaker than an Ar-15 spring, and I like that it's easier to cock. But yes, it would add some more range. Thanks, btw.

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#11 donz2323

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Posted 12 April 2008 - 02:57 PM

excellent mods 'ofAll... I was going to say that a 1/2 inch wood drill bit makes removing the AR pretty easy, but the way you used a piece of brass which could be used as a tighter section of the barrel is pretty interesting.
If memory serves me the person that made the NF/recon actually had to cut and bondo the shell with part of the NF shell. I don't remember how I turned out though. I really hope ompa can make a good solution to the plunger, because it is the part holding back the recon. Good luck ompa!
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Posted 12 April 2008 - 03:04 PM

Nice alternate on the stock. I actually really like the coupler attachment, and I honestly never thought about attaching the extra spring tube directly to the pistol. I like that I can take mine all the way off though in case i needed a more "stock" pistol.

I consider my Recon my secondary actually. I have a single shot NFbow that i'm working on for my Primary "range" gun, then the Recon for RoF mid range and eventually i'll remake another singled cutdown NF for the pistol slot. If the Maverick was smaller I'd honestly select it for pistol because of it's RoF, but it's so damn bulky.
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Posted 12 April 2008 - 07:18 PM

We should call you butter, you're on a roll!!!

Anyway, another great mod, OfAll. Nice Job.
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Posted 12 April 2008 - 07:24 PM

Instead of gluing the back piece of the stock on and not being able to experiment with springs, you could put 3-4 screws around the circumference to hold in place. When you want to swtich springs, you unscrew it and it should slide out. Pop a new spring in, and screw it back up.

Carbon uses a similar method to keep his SNAPs together.

EDIT: Also, your screws don't have to go very deep, so you don't have to worry about the screws affecting the spring. Great mod, by the way! I have yet to buy the Recon, so I can't say much about the mod itself.

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Posted 12 April 2008 - 08:17 PM

Thanks everyone.

donz, I just took out the AR the way I did because of the brass part. A bit more efficient.

Green, thank you.

Frost, thank you for that idea. I was contemplating using industrial strength velcro, but I'll look into that alternative. Thank you btw.

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Posted 13 April 2008 - 06:43 PM

I was contemplating using industrial strength velcro, but I'll look into that alternative. Thank you btw.


Trust me that is not going to hold. I can't even get it to hold the plates on my Jango Fett armor for very long.

Good job with the throwing together of all the mods out there for this gun.
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Posted 13 April 2008 - 08:57 PM

No. Industrial velcro is fucking awesome

I used it to attach my TTG to my 3k. Ask BG guy (Skitzo's friend). I was shaking that thing like crazy and it barely moved.

What are you using the velcro for? I didn't see it.
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Posted 13 April 2008 - 11:50 PM

You could cut off a little more from the nub on the bolt sled to make the dart tooth stay up later, and if you do it far and smooth enough, you get rid of the annoying bucking when you pull the slide forward, which makes for smoother action. I actually cut down the angle of the dart tooth's nub along with the bolt sled's nub, and now it slides smooth as butter.
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Posted 14 April 2008 - 12:29 AM

Great job! It seemed a bit as if the Recon had been written off, and it makes me glad to see your mod. I look at this as the first real comprehensive mod, and I'm eager to find out what The Internet will do with such a great foundation. Kudos to you, sir!
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#20 OfAllTheNerf

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Posted 17 April 2008 - 07:55 PM

Nice alternate on the stock. I actually really like the coupler attachment, and I honestly never thought about attaching the extra spring tube directly to the pistol. I like that I can take mine all the way off though in case i needed a more "stock" pistol.

I consider my Recon my secondary actually. I have a single shot NFbow that i'm working on for my Primary "range" gun, then the Recon for RoF mid range and eventually i'll remake another singled cutdown NF for the pistol slot. If the Maverick was smaller I'd honestly select it for pistol because of it's RoF, but it's so damn bulky.


Thank you. The stock mod is the best thing that every happened to the Recon, kudos to you.

I recently followed through with my velcro idea:

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2 strips for 1.79... Not bad. They have adhesive strips on the back, so I just stuck the loop side onto the piping.

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Then I cut the hook strips in half, and covered the adhesive side with e-tape.

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Then you just pop the spring in, twist the coupler on and add the velcro! It holds very well.

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There you go!

I'll update this again when I paint it.

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 01:26 PM

You did a lot of work. I only did a basic AR removal, and mine gets 40-45 feet.
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Posted 21 August 2008 - 02:29 PM

You did a lot of work. I only did a basic AR removal, and mine gets 40-45 feet.


He's been dealt with already. Let this die.
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