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#1 Tehmandude

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Posted 24 March 2008 - 03:18 AM

Why is there an AR in every nerf gun in the present? Even without them, they don't shoot as far as crossbows or some other past guns. Is nerf scared of being sued or something? Because I got shot in the eye with a nerf gun, I didn't go blind.

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If you accidentally clock somebody with a doubleshot, then you're more liable to break the doubleshot than you are to cause serious injury.


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Posted 24 March 2008 - 06:00 AM

Why is there an AR in every nerf gun in the present? Even without them, they don't shoot as far as crossbows or some other past guns. Is nerf scared of being sued or something? Because I got shot in the eye with a nerf gun, I didn't go blind.


That is precisely the point: kids who partake in activities such as russian roulette with a nerf gun may run the risk of getting slightly injured without an air restrictor in it. Also, as Nerf is a toy company, the expectations of parents buying TOY guns from this brand expect them to be safe. If the guns don't have some sort of safety measure in them, then parents can legitimately sue for negligence.
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#3 mystefansdontflystraight

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Posted 24 March 2008 - 06:41 AM

I guess so to, with the safety thing. They market their toys to 8-11 year olds, so I assume that they think that the little kiddies will be so obsessed with the cool factor and the fact that it shoots at all, that they won't care that it doesn't shoot far. Putting in the ARs puts their parent's minds at ease, and the kids don't seem to care much. We do. May God smite down ARs!

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It's just screaming to be rearloading...

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Posted 24 March 2008 - 09:47 AM

I'm absolutely fine with the fact that they continue to put ARs in their guns. This way there's reason to tear apart your gun (and add various improvements while you're already in there). It's always more fun to get into the technical stuff. :D
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Posted 24 March 2008 - 11:48 AM

I'm absolutely fine with the fact that they continue to put ARs in their guns. This way there's reason to tear apart your gun (and add various improvements while you're already in there). It's always more fun to get into the technical stuff. :D

Exactly. Thats the part I love the MOST. tearing the gun apart and toying with it and then putting it back together.
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Posted 24 March 2008 - 12:34 PM

Another factor is longevity of the gun. Take the Disk Shot (aka Nite Finder) as an example of the AR keeping the gun from breaking. If you have a brand new one of these guns dry fire it. I do not suggest ever extensively dry firing a gun, EVER, but in the case of the AR in place you will notice that the plunger rod will slowly go back into the gun. This is due to the AR slowing the release of air and therefore slowing the plunger's return which will keep the head of the plunger from slamming against the end of the plunger tube.
When a dart is in place some of the air force is transfered to the dart, with or without an AR, and such the plunger is not hitting with full force against the end of the tube. I have seen idiots break their Nite Finders because they did not put craft foam on the end of the plunger and more importantly, dry fired excessively. An AR would keep the dry fire damage to a minimum, which is good for Hasbro to have guns that can be around long enough to require more darts to be bought.
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Posted 24 March 2008 - 01:04 PM

ARs also prevents people from putting objects other than darts insides a barrel. Imagine what would happen if you stuck a screwdriver inside a longshot. In addition, ARs allow hasbro to make the actual gun more powerful. If there wasn't an AR, the gun could only fire at its best straight out of the box.
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Posted 24 March 2008 - 01:09 PM

It wouldn't be firing at its best! If you mean airflow, than yes. But without a new barrel and spring, it's not any where near its best.
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Posted 24 March 2008 - 01:10 PM

ARs also prevents people from putting objects other than darts insides a barrel.

THIS is the primary reason and it's mentioned many times in the patent for the air restrictor.
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Posted 24 March 2008 - 01:23 PM

Well, they say Nite Finders fire as far as 35 feet and the Titan fires 60 feet. I only get these ranges after I take out the AR. Is Nerf actually persuading us to mod the guns by putting an AR in it?
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If you accidentally clock somebody with a doubleshot, then you're more liable to break the doubleshot than you are to cause serious injury.


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Posted 24 March 2008 - 01:29 PM

I do not suggest ever extensively dry firing a gun, EVER, but in the case of the AR in place you will notice that the plunger rod will slowly go back into the gun. This is due to the AR slowing the release of air and therefore slowing the plunger's return which will keep the head of the plunger from slamming against the end of the plunger tube.

This is particularly true in the case of two-part ARs, like the Maverick. If there is no dart in the barrel, the AR is effectively closed. The end of the dart presses back on the AR, opening the holes. When the dart is fired, it closes again.
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Posted 24 March 2008 - 02:17 PM

I guess so to, with the safety thing. They market their toys to 8-11 year olds, so I assume that they think that the little kiddies will be so obsessed with the cool factor and the fact that it shoots at all, that they won't care that it doesn't shoot far. Putting in the ARs puts their parent's minds at ease, and the kids don't seem to care much. We do. May God smite down ARs!

Why would parents be interested enough in the nerf guns anyway to notice that there are AR's. Besides, the most popular reason that they are safe is beacuse the darts are made of foam, and therefore wont hurt. Nothing is mentioned about AR's on the packages. I would like it if the darts were softer and the AR's out.
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Posted 24 March 2008 - 03:09 PM

Well, they say Nite Finders fire as far as 35 feet and the Titan fires 60 feet. I only get these ranges after I take out the AR. Is Nerf actually persuading us to mod the guns by putting an AR in it?

That is an interesting question. It's obvious that they don't want kids to run around putting each other's eyes out with a singled titan, but I'm willing to bet money that there is at least one person that Nerf employs whose job it is to figure out exactly what the modded version of their products is capable of.

In addition, while they market almost exclusively to children, they would be completely brain-dead if they didn't notice the large (and growing) community of nerfers that are in highschool, college, or beyond.

Consider also that air restrictors help keep the tank and plunger clean when used outside. Smaller holes = less foreign material getting in the internals and messing stuff up.
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Posted 24 March 2008 - 05:28 PM

I remember my uncle telling me a story of how he had one of those lever action air rifles that make the noises. (You know, the ones made by Daisy) He said before they put orange tips on them, you could shove rocks down the barrel and shoot stuff with it. ARs are made so kids can't do that. This way, you can only use NERF brand ammo and thus they make more money. Also, they keep the power at a safe level for the kiddies.
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Posted 24 March 2008 - 10:55 PM

I must say that the AR is probably one of the most brilliant things Nerf has done to their guns in the past.
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Posted 24 March 2008 - 11:07 PM

Well, they say Nite Finders fire as far as 35 feet and the Titan fires 60 feet. I only get these ranges after I take out the AR. Is Nerf actually persuading us to mod the guns by putting an AR in it?


I bet they don't use level shots to find the range of their guns. My stock NF and Titan both were able to hit their advertised distances when I fired at an angle.
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Posted 24 March 2008 - 11:33 PM

It's so you can't put shoot objects other than nerf darts and so they have a control of the air flow when firing it so you can't injure someone. Also it is for the fun of removing them by people such as us.
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Posted 24 March 2008 - 11:43 PM

Air Restricter. To Restrict the flow of air, Need there be more to say?
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