#1
Posted 18 March 2008 - 09:56 PM
So...
You know how you can "see" images in your sleep, or unconscious? If a person blind for all of their life, do they see images in there sleep too?
Justify your answer too.
I've heard these so far:
Yes if they've been blind partially for there life.
No, they've never seen anything.
Also- I have many more questions that are interesting like this too.
#2
Posted 18 March 2008 - 09:59 PM
#3
Posted 18 March 2008 - 10:02 PM
#4
Posted 18 March 2008 - 10:03 PM
Edited by raw shrimp, 18 March 2008 - 10:04 PM.
#5
Posted 18 March 2008 - 10:15 PM
You could always find someone blind and ask them. : o)
...and ideas are bulletproof. "
#6
Posted 18 March 2008 - 10:16 PM
(I wouldn't take the Straight Dope as a primary source of research, but it appears to be a good summary of the rest of the sources I read while researching your question.)
Edited by Carbon, 18 March 2008 - 10:17 PM.
#7
Posted 18 March 2008 - 10:22 PM
Don't want to shove balls in tight spaces. Trust me, bad idea.
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#8
Posted 18 March 2008 - 11:48 PM
#9
Posted 19 March 2008 - 12:10 AM
After living in your house for so many years, do you not feel that you could walk it blindfolded? That's memory. We never actually see our dreams but we elude to that idea that we "see" them because we have no real explanation of what our minds were doing.
Edited by TAiLsChaser, 19 March 2008 - 12:11 AM.
"It’s only after you’ve made the mistake and taken the wrong path, do you see all the other options that were before you."
#10
Posted 19 March 2008 - 02:38 AM
#11
Posted 19 March 2008 - 02:40 AM
I'm not really sure, but if someone has never seen ANYTHING, then they don't even know what sight is, therefore they would not imagine something that would be completely alien to them. Something that doesn't even exist. It's like saying that our universe is something completely random in something that's alot larger and so incoherent that we can't, well, cohere to it.
To answer the question though, I think they would probably "feel" like others have said, mainly because that is their primary subsitute for sight. They might "feel" their way around a dream.
In any case, no one will really know (and even if you asked a blind person, they wouldn't be able to tell you because they don't know what an image is (that will probably cause alot of controversy...)).
Great question nonetheless.
#12
Posted 19 March 2008 - 05:23 AM
5. Protip: sarcasm is good for making someone else look like more of an idiot than they already do. However, if you are an idiot to start with, using sarcasm just makes you look like a COLOSSAL idiot.
#13
Posted 19 March 2008 - 09:03 AM
Thats a really big coincedence. Today at school my friends And i were arguing over if a blind person could wrestle, and win a match. evryone said no, except two other people and I. And to answer your question, I agree with doubleshot. Everyone does have an imagination.
One of Death's friends from high school was a blind wrestler, and I believe he went to states. Suffice to say he was pretty good, I'll have to get the name and details from him later.
#14
Posted 19 March 2008 - 09:29 AM
Back on topic: As Carbon correctly pointed out, the general rule is that the congenitally blind do not see. However, there are exceptions to every rule. Dreams are based upon memory (and what we think/imagination is part of our memory). If a blind person could some how "imagine" sight (many can depending on how blind they are; most "blind" people can distinguish light and dark) then they could theoretically have dreams with visual images.
But seriously, check out that Kyle Maynard kid...the coolest part is watching a guy with no arms or legs eating a bowl of cereal (yes, using a spoon) or typing 40 wpm without any special equipment!
#15
Posted 19 March 2008 - 01:49 PM
#16
Posted 19 March 2008 - 02:43 PM
You and I "see" with our cerebral cortex, and not with the eyes. The eyes are sinply senoory organs that serve the cerebral cortex in the process of sight by sending nerve impulses to the brain, specifically the cerebral cortex. But in a blind user however, the sensory organs do not transmit nerve impulses to the cerebral cortex for them to "see" this could be becuase their rteina is detached form the inside of the eye's wall or other various pathology dealing with the eyes. Now when you dream you use your mid- frontal cortex which is a section of the cerebral cortex. Since the cerebral cortex also allows for your dreaming, and it is still perfectly intact, even with the blind sensory organ this means that the person CAN dream. Becuase even though dreams are said to be based on life experiences, the person still has life experiences, only they use their other sensory organs such as the ears, nose, etc to have those experiences.
I hope this clears things up.
~Zaxbys
Future M.D.
Edited by Zaxbys, 19 March 2008 - 02:45 PM.
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#17
Posted 19 March 2008 - 04:41 PM
#18
Posted 19 March 2008 - 04:43 PM
"Bitces be crazy"
QUOTE
"Hey girl... you like water sports?"
~Groove 6/26/09
#19
Posted 19 March 2008 - 05:20 PM
A similar question would be if I asked you "Do you dream in 4 dimensions?" The technical answer would be that yes, you dream in 4 dimensions, but you can only comprehend or see 3 of them, so to you it appears to be 3 dimensional even though there is still a 4th dimension there.
#20
Posted 19 March 2008 - 05:25 PM
#21
Posted 19 March 2008 - 05:31 PM
Just for the record, my mother is the most beautiful women in the world.
#22
Posted 19 March 2008 - 05:40 PM
As much as I hate to admit that I am not the only one with medical knowledge, Zaxbys is totally right. Though the topic is not about IF a blind person can dream but if a blind person can SEE in the dream. In my opinion, they can imagine what it is like to see using their other senses to make an educated guess as to what certain things look like.
I couldn't agree more.
"Bitces be crazy"
QUOTE
"Hey girl... you like water sports?"
~Groove 6/26/09
#24
Posted 19 March 2008 - 06:48 PM
Thats a really big coincedence. Today at school my friends And i were arguing over if a blind person could wrestle, and win a match. evryone said no, except two other people and I. And to answer your question, I agree with doubleshot. Everyone does have an imagination.
The school freshman team that I'm on went up against a school with a blind wrestler who actually was really good and had won some matches, but he wasn't good enough to beat our team.
Just because you can't see me doesn't mean I'm not there.
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#25
Posted 19 March 2008 - 07:41 PM
Thats a really big coincedence. Today at school my friends And i were arguing over if a blind person could wrestle, and win a match. evryone said no, except two other people and I.
Anyone remember the movie Going to the Mat. It was aired on the Disney Channel a while ago about Jason "Jace" Newfield. It was the best and thankfully one of the only movies I have watched on that channel.
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