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#76 Daedarus

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Posted 15 November 2003 - 05:27 PM

Well, by saying "in the first one" I was inferring to before he know he was the One.
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#77 Talio

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Posted 16 November 2003 - 01:04 AM

Ok, so I saw this flaming pile of garbage today because it was free. I have to say it wasn't bad, but the biblical references were so rampant that I found it destrubing.

Stuff I liked:

First of, I enjoyed it. It was fun to watch and after all thats the only reason to go see a flick like this. It was a cool action flick. I kinda liked the Zion battle. It was fun, kinda gave you a Mech Warrior on acid feel. I thought the superman fight at the end was mildly amusing, and I mostly liked that the fights sceens were short, to the point, and not distracting.

Stuff I didn't like:

As I've said before, I am a christian, but because of that I think I liked it less. The originality of this flick falls somewhere between meek and non-exsistant. It is done? Blind men? Neo being plugged by the machines in the shape of a cross? Putting Neo's dead body on a metal slab? The "Will we see him again?" bit? All of these, plus countless others and a nice little last supper scene, coupled for a two hour quazi-bible lesson. It's kinda cool that they did this, but it was too obvious.

As for other stuff, well there was very little. I liked that Trinity got to see the sky before she died, I liked that the Oricale switched bodies.

I kinda thought Trinity dying was long winded. I thought Neo came off as week when fighting Smith.

What I really didn't like about the movie is few and far between. I agree with both horsemen on this one though. Even though I liked this flick, I will not accept that it was a trilogy. The first one was amazing and should have been left at that. Great plot, great characters, great ending. What more do you want?

The last two flicks have shown through more then ever that they were cash cows. Although I enjoyed the final flick, it was not nessecary. The new characters were as weak as always, and the old ones were played too coldly. But all in all, it was ok, I didn't hate it. There you have it.

Now and forever more,

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#78 Daedarus

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Posted 16 November 2003 - 09:36 AM

I still love the part is Reloaded when Morpheus rolled to the side and essentially cut the Cadillac Escalade pick-up in half, and then blasted it to pieces with a Glock 26c. That is like my favorite scene in any movie, ever.
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#79 Talio

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Posted 16 November 2003 - 12:04 PM

I don't know why. Fucking Katana's don't cut cars in half. And for christ sakes, what the fuck was that thing running on anyway...Plutonium? Cars don't blow up that way, and the whole fucking movie was stupid. Besides, your telling me that scene beats the Vader/Luke fight from Empire. Fuck you.
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Posted 16 November 2003 - 01:47 PM

Yea the luke/vader fight is awesome,but I think Daedarus is entitiled to his own opinion Talio.
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#81 Jangadance

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Posted 16 November 2003 - 08:35 PM

Katana's don't cut cars in half.

True- Morpheus essentially cut through some of the fiberglass body of the car and then through the rubber tire. It was a badass scene, but I agree that to me it wasn't as good as numerous others. For instance, Luke and Vader's duel was better because of the emotional poignancy. The music there was also quite powerful, the vocal arrangement.

But Morpheus blowing up the car by making it roll over and shooting its belly was pretty fun to watch, anyhow.
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#82 Daedarus

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Posted 16 November 2003 - 08:59 PM

Doh! I think after almost half a decade on the NIC, Talio just gave me my "initiation". I don't care if it was real, it looked awesome. The idea of stopping bullets isn't real, but people liked that one. Yeah, stick that in your pipe and smoke it :lol:
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Posted 17 November 2003 - 09:37 AM

And I dont Know if any of you noticed this in Reloaded, but when Neo stops the silver bullets, they are still in thier casings.
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#84 Talio

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Posted 17 November 2003 - 03:35 PM

Not to say that The Matrix was meant to be real. But you have to draw the line somewhere. Stopping bullets implies Neo had some kind of power. A car blowing up implies it was running on something flamable. Since there is no story line about different fuel, I'm supposing the car was running on fossil fuel, and fossil fuel does not explode quite that violently. Neo stopping bullets is supported in the story line and is one of his powers.

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Posted 17 November 2003 - 06:31 PM

Not to say that The Matrix was meant to be real. But you have to draw the line somewhere. Stopping bullets implies Neo had some kind of power. A car blowing up implies it was running on something flamable. Since there is no story line about different fuel, I'm supposing the car was running on fossil fuel, and fossil fuel does not explode quite that violently. Neo stopping bullets is supported in the story line and is one of his powers.

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Yep. Exactly right.

Neo is able to stop bullets because they are just object in the Matrix, and he is able to bend those rules. On the topic of the car blowing up, the general idea is that Morpheus shot at the gas tank to cause an explosion. However, it's very hard to believe that a couple of katanas can cut a car's door open, and that a car would simply tip over on a sharp turn. But, guys, you're forgetting one big, big thing...

It's Hollywood. They can do whatever the fuck they want.
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#86 Daedarus

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Posted 17 November 2003 - 06:33 PM

Maybe Morpheus excells in car disassembly and repair? And yes, Beast, I noticed that also. Also, isn't gasoline flammable? If he cut through the body (cool, but yes, unlikely) the metal-on-metal could form sparks, therefore moving into the gasoline tank and igniting a fire. It wouldn't explode nearly at that intensity, but hey, it's Hollywood, and it looked cool.

Edit: Just read Grinch's( he posted right before me) post, and I agree. Hollywood does alot of crazy crap, like making Van Damme a millionare.
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Posted 29 November 2003 - 02:29 AM

I dunno, I thought the ending was good. Got bored with the repetition of certain lines in the movie, but I was very impressed overall. Extremely suspenseful!
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