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Adding Another Spring To The Recon

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#1 DeceitfulSteve

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Posted 31 December 2007 - 01:48 AM

1. Unscrew middle yellow piece in stock.
2. Cut down a piece of 1.5" thin-wall PVC (or anything else with an ID larger than your spring), and trim one end so that it can fit in the stock.
3. Shove a spring in there. I used a full AR-15 spring.
4. You're done!

With a really short Stefan, I got around 30-35' flat. Now all it needs is a better barrel. I'm also really liking the extra weight behind the handle.

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#2 Forsaken angel24

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Posted 31 December 2007 - 02:14 AM

Very good thinking.
The pipe looks crooked though.
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Posted 31 December 2007 - 02:16 AM

Very Nicely Done!


What store did you get it from?
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Posted 31 December 2007 - 02:20 AM

It looks like you earned the "First Useful Recon Mod" award. Nice job.
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Posted 31 December 2007 - 02:23 AM

The pipe is crooked. It needs a larger piece cut out of it.

The Recon is from a Walmart in Plano, Texas.
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#6 el swifto

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Posted 31 December 2007 - 03:01 AM

I was kind of hoping you would get better ranges though....


How hard is it to cock?
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Posted 31 December 2007 - 03:02 AM

It looks like you earned the "First Useful Recon Mod" award. Nice job.

What about the AR removal mod?

And bare with me here, I'm stupid. How does this thing work?

Edited by n-strike, 31 December 2007 - 03:07 AM.

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Posted 31 December 2007 - 03:33 AM

When you actuate the slide, the plunger tube (the orange bit that sticks out the back) is working against the spring inside the shell just like a mav. On this, he added a seperate chamber made of pvc which acts abainst the plunger tube externally, after it exits the frame.
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Posted 31 December 2007 - 04:12 AM

When you actuate the slide, the plunger tube (the orange bit that sticks out the back) is working against the spring inside the shell just like a mav. On this, he added a seperate chamber made of pvc which acts abainst the plunger tube externally, after it exits the frame.
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Oh, alright. Thanks!
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Posted 31 December 2007 - 08:29 AM

So does this kind of act like rubberbanding a nightfinder?
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#11 Z-man12

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Posted 31 December 2007 - 11:06 AM

I was actualy going to do this when I found one for my self. I wondered why no one had done it yet.
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Posted 31 December 2007 - 11:23 AM

So does this kind of act like rubberbanding a nightfinder?

Yes, but better. Rubber bands get stretched and brittle over time and snap, springs stay nice and bouncy.
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Posted 31 December 2007 - 12:23 PM

Wait, so you get stock ranges? Its useless to me then.
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Posted 31 December 2007 - 12:55 PM

How hard is it to cock?


It's no problem for me to cock, but it is harder than stock, obviously. It's less hard than a NF with handyman spring replacement.

Thanks to bobafan for the explanatory drawing.
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Posted 31 December 2007 - 02:10 PM

I'd guess the range increase didn't occur because there is no barrel to channel the extra force through. A good barrel, and it would be fine, I am going out on a limb and saying 45-50ft with a better barrel.
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Posted 31 December 2007 - 02:43 PM

I just did a spring stretch and AR removal on mine and got better than 35'. I think the problem you're having is that you aren't using the full compression of the spring since the slide cocking mechanism is still only compressing the distance optimal for the stock spring.
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Posted 31 December 2007 - 02:50 PM

I think I understand now.

So the spring is pushing against the "ARMED" indicator (plunger)?

ANd you always have to have the stock on but I like that since it looks comfortable and awesome.

THen I would keep the barrel attachment on for looks a support for the barrel.

Honestly I would do a barrel replacement write up if i had a recon. I live on the VERY east coast and I had THREE recons at my wal-mart.

I hid them behind the firefly's :P . I WILL HAve a recon or two, by the 3rd and expect a writeup. (unless someone beats me to it.)
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#18 bobafett109

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Posted 31 December 2007 - 03:03 PM

xNFx, where exactly do you live? I live in CT, and So far there havn't been any recons yet.
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Posted 31 December 2007 - 06:08 PM

Damn, i was planning on posting this mod as soon as i got the recon. Oh well, thumbs up anyways.
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Posted 31 December 2007 - 06:11 PM

It shouldn't matter where you live, cuz I'm more eastern than you. I found it at a Wal-mart. Target does NOT have them.

I found 3 hidden behind some other guns, check behind the other boxes. ANd like umdlancer said, If there's none on the shelf, ask a sales person to check the stockroom for you.
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#21 angrscottishkid

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Posted 31 December 2007 - 06:58 PM

Damn, I wanted to be the first to do this, but the Recon hasn't hit my area yet. I guess great minds think alike, good job!

Edited by angrscottishkid, 31 December 2007 - 07:03 PM.

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Posted 31 December 2007 - 07:33 PM

I think the best way to improve this mod is to cut the PVC in 1/2. Then glue a metal or wooden plate in the middle of the two pieces. But make sure the orange rod that says armed on it when cocked still has an inch before it hits the new plate. Then glue it all back together with a different spring in it. Then you would get the full compression of the new spring.
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#23 DeceitfulSteve

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Posted 31 December 2007 - 08:39 PM

Or drill two holes in the pvc and insert a metal rod through them.

On a side note, I rigged up a brass barrel (17/32") and new plunger tube (the part with the o-ring) and was getting another 5-10' with the stock spring. My "extra" spring broke my contraption, but I'll try again tomorrow with more metal parts this time.
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Posted 31 December 2007 - 10:30 PM

How does the Recon's spring compare to a Big bad bows or longshots? You could totally add a new spring if you reinforced it. Centurysprings.com would help you find the exact spring needed.
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#25 M30

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Posted 02 January 2008 - 02:32 AM

Hopefully tomorrow I'll be able to give this one a shot. I really like the idea.

I'm going to use a much smaller spring, and brace it against the inside of that middle chunk of the stock (with the clip to hold the magazine) to see if that changes anything. I'll post pictures in this thread when that happens.

Did you brace the tubing with anything? Like gluing it to the gun or the stock or wraping it in duct tape?
I would worry that it'd have a tenancy to fly off if it's not secured somehow.
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