Nerf Grassroots Movement
#1
Posted 30 November 2007 - 07:24 AM
After seeing that Cmdrmack was able to make his clan a recognized group at his college, I believe that we could take jwasko's idea farther. If you go to a middle school, high school, or college, you could make a nerf club or association, therefore actually making nerf a recognized sport.
I have to go to school now but I'll update later with more ideas.
Nerf Rocket Air Launcher
#2
Posted 30 November 2007 - 08:20 AM
#3
Posted 30 November 2007 - 09:33 AM
#4
Posted 30 November 2007 - 10:17 AM
Edited by penguin807, 30 November 2007 - 10:50 AM.
#5
Posted 30 November 2007 - 10:40 AM
-Piney-
"It is amazing what a bit of conversation can do, as apposed to just *^$(*#*^ about it."
-AJAQ-
#6
Posted 30 November 2007 - 10:41 AM
I think the "do no modify" disclaimers are more for Hasbro's legal benefit, rather than a strick rule. If Hasbro didn't say "do no modify", and someone got seriously injured from a modded gun, Hasbro would most likely be facing a rather large legal issue.
Edited by Kenpachi_Taicho, 30 November 2007 - 11:00 AM.
#7
Posted 30 November 2007 - 11:54 AM
#8
Posted 30 November 2007 - 12:38 PM
1. Noobs clogging up the forums.
2. Crazy political activists deciding that Nerf is the worst thing to promote violence since video games (see: Jack Thompson)
3. As the sport spreads, some idiot shoots a kid in the eye with a singled Titan at point blank range. The parents blame Hasbro. Hasbro is probably protected from lawsuits by their warnings (that's why they're there), but increasing political (or even economic) pressure could ultimately lead Hasbro to do something detrimental to our hobby. This could include ending the Nerf brand completely (unlikely, considering how much money it's worth these days), or the use of more permanent power restriction (imagine if everything had a setup as small and inefficient as the Scout).
So, yeah, there are the problems we came up with.
I don't see any huge problems with Nerf becoming an organized sport (besides, perhaps, those effects I already mentioned)...I mean, we can still play in our traditional manner and don't have to have anything to do with the "professionals." But, I look forward to OMC's elaboration on that topic.
-Jwasko, STILL Sole Surviving member of Steel City Nerf and Sober Sister of the Sex Dwarves
We NERF ON all day, and FUCK OFF all night
#9
Posted 30 November 2007 - 03:21 PM
#10
Posted 30 November 2007 - 03:29 PM
#11
Posted 30 November 2007 - 03:34 PM
Get real, they're fucking kids toys.
Not when you mod them smart guy.
Like Jwasko mensioned, I'm sure some dumb ass is gonna do something like this with a Crossbow or a modded Titan to themselves or someone else without the eyeprotection.
I know it may not look like much but you never know what kind of dare kids these days would do with something so similar to airsoft gets in their hands.
Edited by CAPS, 30 November 2007 - 03:46 PM.
-Vacc
#12
Posted 30 November 2007 - 03:50 PM
Does anyone else like to use quotes that no one's actually said?
VACC
~who's gonna stop me~
#13
Posted 30 November 2007 - 03:55 PM
And video games are just games, but people still call them "murder simulators" and the like.Get real, they're fucking kids toys.
Edit, after seeing what Vacc wrote:
We may very well be getting "too worked up over absolutely nothing." But, the thing is, that people do get too worked up over nothing.
It's true that Nerf can cause injuries, especially in the case I mentioned. And that's why most wars ban singled Titans and SM5000s. But does it (normally) cause horrible injuries and violence in youth? No.
Unfortunately, not everyone sees it that way. I remember reading that some faculty at Goucher were complaining about the Humans vs Zombies game because it "promotes violence."
Now, does all this mean that advertising Nerf to your community is bad? No. It just means that you have to be careful. In you use advertisements, don't compare Nerf to video games. Don't put up pictures of Boltsniper's FAR and SCAR-N because, as cool as they are, they look very realistic. Heck, even the Longshot may be pushing it. Also, don't use "war;" try "Nerf battle" or even (I think the Presbyterian College nerfers use this) "Nerf Out."
Believe me, I hate thinking about all this "politically correct" shit, but the fact of the matter is that you have to in America these days.
PS: I, too, like to use quotes that no one has said.
Edited by jwasko, 30 November 2007 - 04:13 PM.
-Jwasko, STILL Sole Surviving member of Steel City Nerf and Sober Sister of the Sex Dwarves
We NERF ON all day, and FUCK OFF all night
#14
Posted 01 December 2007 - 02:05 AM
Sure it's good to be competitive, but the point that objective of a Nerf War becomes winning, rather than to have fun, Nerf as we know it, and as I love it, will have died.
That's strong language, but I'll stand by it. Every time I organize a war, my main objective is for all the participants to have fun, not for my team to win, not to get the most people out there, and not to only invite the people who I know will be really good.
I think it's great to have wars like DEAL, where the elite nerfers go to push the boundaries of what our hobby is about, and you can't do that with anything less than the best of the best. But we've also got to have Apoc's where a huge number of people show up, even if not all of them are great at nerf, they still have a lot of fun.
I wasn't here when this happened, but I think Project Nerf was a movement designed to increase our numbers and get more people involved in nerf across the country and the world. It seems like the Nerf Grassroots Movement would be more successful if it were not tied to schools, although that's where most of us spend a majority of our time, but rather to our communities.
Rather than rushing to start clubs at your schools, or pushing to have wars as Church Youth Group Activities, just go out an Nerf, invite the guy busing tables at the family restaurant, or the girl bagging your groceries at Food Lion. Get people to come war with you, do what you can to make the war balanced and fun, even if it means standing across a dorm room from a friend and shooting each other with a stock NF or Maverick. That's how the Foam Warriors of Presbyterian College (FWPC) got its start.
My clan sought recognition primarily for reasons of funding and safety. I'm fairly sure we're not the first Nerf Club to be officially recognized by a school, and it wasn't for the intention of eventually starting a Nerf League. I'd love to challenge other clans to a clan vs. clan war. I'd love to see other schools in the Southeast start nerfing club, but I don't think our community is to the point where we can really push for "sporthood."
Hasbro calls it an elaborate game of tag. That's what it seems to be to me. The lack of standardization makes for an almost infinite number of possibilities. Zaxby's might be a better shot than I am, but I might be better at movement than he is, as a result, he'll be better at elimination/deathmatch games, I'll probably be better at CTF games. If we go for sporthood, would we include one event or both?
Nerf Clubs are a lot of fun, and are a great resource, but one has to have the numbers to properly support it. The only way to do that is to recruit everyone you can. That's what a Grassroots Movement means to me. It means getting involved in actively pursueing the growth of our hobby. For us, the next step in our growth was to organize into a Registered Student Organization. For Groove that means travelling the country nerfing with everyone he can find. It might be something entirely different for you, but find that niche, and stick to it. It takes all kinds of people to make this kind of thing work.
#15
Posted 01 December 2007 - 08:54 AM
Hasbro made disclaimers for their nerf guns saying "do not modify". If some idiot shoots himself thats his fault.
If we made NERF a recognized sport, Hasbro might not be against it. What does Hasbro put they're guns on the shelves of target? Because they want to make money so they can feed their kids. If we make NERF an organised sport, we might have to have permission from Hasbro, but Hasbro would love that. Theyed sell more of their guns to people who are going to NERF clubs and going to get their friends to buy more nerf guns. Hasbro would be happy.
But still that would increase the number of retards who shoot themselves for a hobby. Retards. That would be the biggest problem for Hasbro. If it's not modifyed, they can sue. If it is, they can. But Hasbro puts disclaimers saying "do not modify" for legal reasons. If some stupid kid hurts himself with a modded gun, then NERF would easily have the upperhand on that case.
A great nf can beat a crummy xbow...
^BS^
#16
Posted 01 December 2007 - 01:02 PM
Just because Hasbro is able to win a lawsuit doesn't mean it won't catch flak for selling toys that can (potentially) harm someone when modified.If some stupid kid hurts himself with a modded gun, then NERF would easily have the upperhand on that case.
Take Manhunt 2, for instance. Once again, Rockstar left questionable content in the code of their game even after it was "removed" (see also: GTA: San Andreas). However, this time -- for some strange reason -- the ESRB was okay with that and did not re-rate the game as Adults Only. When that happened to GTA, if I remember correctly, the game was pulled from store shelves until new copies (without the offending code) were made.
Despite the lack of official repercussions from the ESRB, however, Target won't sell Manhunt 2.
If the metaphorical shit hits the fan, don't think that stores like Target won't stop selling Nerf.
As a side note: Happy birthday, Cmdrmack. This seems to be your week.
Edited by jwasko, 01 December 2007 - 01:04 PM.
-Jwasko, STILL Sole Surviving member of Steel City Nerf and Sober Sister of the Sex Dwarves
We NERF ON all day, and FUCK OFF all night
#17
Posted 02 December 2007 - 08:28 PM
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#18
Posted 05 December 2007 - 10:38 AM
Venom: Haven't we all?
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