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[Bone]

I was getting to thinking that nerf on needed a few homemade write ups. So here is my T.A.R.



The gun is built out of 1"PVC except the plunger and the barell and the plunger wich is made with 1/2 cpvc. It fires micro stefans to about 35 feet.
right now it's got a reely reely tiny spring because thats the only one that could fit over cpvc but i may get a new one fairly soon. now to the write up...

Materials-
-cpvc (plunger shaft)
-1" (pvc plunger tube)
-1" to 3/4 reducer
-1" pvc endcap
- 1/2 cpvc endcap
-duct tape
-o-rings
-spring(s)


To construct the plunger head first take your 1/2 endcap and wrap it in some of your duct tape until it is just a bit smaller than the inside of your 1" pvc. Once you have it nice and taped up slide your o rings on to it, and glue them in place. it should look kinda like this.



[note you must try to get your o-rings as straight as possible on your plunger head mine were a little messed up they are now fixed though]

next take your plunger head and put alittle hot glue in it and stick your 14" of cpvc into it then your plunger is completed.
it will look like this



Now to form the main body of the gun and the plunger tube...
take 5" of 3/4 pvc and cut it at an angle to were ever you are comfortable for your handle. Then epoxy/hot glue it on to your 12" of 1" pvc.

now the trigger it can be found here
://nerfhaven.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6605&hl=clothespin

then once it is finished set it aside for a little while. Now take your trigger and set it on the plunger tube now were the pin touches the pvcmake a little mark. now take your drill and drill the hole through it make it just a little bigger than the pin. Then glue on your trigger. it should look kinda like this.



now to get the barrel working take your rass and glue it inside some 3/4 pvc. Now take your pvc and put it inside the 1 to 3/4 reducer. Done!



Now for the backstop for the spring.

take a 1" PVC endcap and drill a 5/8 holes in it so it is just big enough for your cpvc to fit through but not big enough for the spring to fall out.



Now assemble all of your parts and you got yourself a homemade.

To operate
-pull back trigger
-pull back plunger past the catch
-release trigger
-load gun
-aim
-pull back trigger then gun fires
rinse and repeat

i hope this hellped you a bit and if any of you use this send me

[CaMbLaM]

Nice paint job, I would try and put some other colors in so people don't mistake it for a real gun.
Looks nice overall, I would like to see what happens if you can get a nice plunger head.
What’s the rof like? Is it similar to an lbb without a breach?

[cooldood31]

It looks a lot like one of carbon's S.N.A.P. type guns, except painted black. It even has the same trigger mechanism. You might want to build a new one with a larger plunger tube and a stronger spring, because I don't think 35 feet is all that great.

Edited by cooldood31, 07 June 2006 - 07:56 PM.

[Carbon]

My main thought was that you should try and get a more efficient plunger head. You could probably double your range with a better seal...especially with a 14" plunger. Also, what are you using as your catch face? Is it the front of your plunger?

Keep on working with it. It's cool to see this basic design done up with different materials and sizes.

[Bone]

yes carbon i am using just the front of the plunger as the catch face. For the TAR 2 i am planning on using rubber washers to get a better seal. I think a better spring would help a great deal. Also the rate of fire i believe i got of 10 shots in one minuete once, but that was only once.

[Powersniper]

Sorry about this but I've been iching to say this for a while and it's not targeting you, but... all of these homeade rifles and pistals all really look the same ... I mean you could add some creative stuff to make it stand out

But anyways nice job.

Edited by Powersniper{}, 08 June 2006 - 12:16 AM.

[taz22]

@bone: i really like it. poor the spring isn't so good but for a indoor match its good.
i'm also thinking that the main problem is at the plunger head. what happens if you seal the end of the barrel and then fire (without a dart) it the plunger has a good seal it won't move, ore it move very slow.

@powersniper: i'm not attacking you but i think its the true.
i don't se a gun that you made? why don't you make one first, than say something like that, its very hard do make you own idea, if a very good idea will work and if it looks cool. also why would you make something else, if the easier design does also work.

do you also know a other way to use as a trigger? (because that's the reason why it looks a lot like a snap. its impossible to build the gun in a other way if you use the snap style trigger.

i'm building my 2nd gun now and it has got the same mechanism of the far and scar-n, its i gues the only good way to make a fast action clip fed weapon.

[Powersniper]

"@powersniper: i'm not attacking you but i think its the true.
i don't se a gun that you made? why don't you make one first, than say something like that, its very hard do make you own idea, if a very good idea will work and if it looks cool. also why would you make something else, if the easier design does also work."

Taz22, I know I'm an ass for that, but I don't freaking know how to get pics of MY home made guns off my phone and on to my computer without all this crap you have to do (it's a sliver so it does connect straight to it but there's a bunch of complications). But really... if you want style, go with somehting like the SNAP uhh... well the last one that he made. Now that's flashy!
http://nerfhaven.com...opic=6487&st=30

I AINT TRYING TO EFFEND ANYONE!!!!!!!!

Edited by Powersniper{}, 20 June 2006 - 03:24 PM.

[taz22]

ok, i must say sorry fot that one than (that you cant post your pictures)
but i won't make the snap-4 because its realy wird how it works, I don't get it btw.
but who cares. maybe he like a nice clean design more and just wanted to make one fast that shoots ok.

but this is going off toptic so i'll stop this

@bone: what is you max range (under 45*) ?

grts

[Sanityjr]

I really hope that I am not overstepping my boundaries as a member, but taz22, please remember to use capizalization, spelling, and punctuation, because this is a top-notch forum, not an online chat.

Just remember to do it in the future, ok? Thank you.

Edited by Sanityjr, 22 June 2006 - 02:00 PM.

[davidbowie]

Slow down, junior. He's from the netherlands.

Powersniper, I want to see these homemades of yours, with their groundbreaking styles. The reason so many guns look the same is that the SNAP works. Extremely well. Don't mess with success, unless you're creating...more successful success.

[Powersniper]

Hey, whoa whoa, I never said that i have made tricked out stylish home mades. I just suggesting either like adding somehing to it, or a flashy paint job. Otherwise things at NH would just get to monotonious... So, I'm sorry, ok? If it's not, well screw off!!!
anywyas, we're really going off topic, so... i suggest we stop... or something.

[taz22]

Ok, sorry you guys, but my English isn't so good. And I don't know where to use those big letters *(also don't know how you call them yes me n00b) this is my way I teach my English from games.
for that grammar-stuff I've got a toolbar that checks it, but sometimes I really don't want to use it (take to many time, and i don't have got a lot of time).

so sorry for everything. if i made mistakes, please tell me, and i will edit it.

grts

but please bone, give me some more info!!! i like it. maybe you could cut some of the glue away ore sand it? and how may layers of paint did you use and how many cans? thank you

[sistermol]

[quote]now to get the barrel working take your rass and glue it inside some 3/4 pvc. Now take your pvc and put it inside the 1 to 3/4 reducer. Done![quote]

Is that supposed to be brass or ass or possibly something else?

[Carbon]

[quote name='sistermol' date='Jun 27 2006, 09:11 AM' post='83872']
[quote]now to get the barrel working take your rass and glue it inside some 3/4 pvc.[quote]

Is that supposed to be brass or ass or possibly something else?
[/quote]

Are you gonna glue your ass inside some 3/4" PVC?

Pretty safe to say it's "brass".

[sistermol]

What size brass did you use?

[Bone]

17/32 K&S brass. Also that was a stupid question about if I meant brass. I definitly meant grass.[Sarcasm]

[elf avec gun]

Powersniper{}, on Jun 8 2006, 12:15 AM, said:

Sorry about this but I've been iching to say this for a while and it's not targeting you, but... all of these homeade rifles and pistals all really look the same ... I mean you could add some creative stuff to make it stand out

I definatly agree with you on that one! People could use a more unique handle than just the 3 peice pvc style ones. Someone could breakout of the ordinary and make a wood one like I did for one of my homemades; I find that it is considerably more comfortable because you is able to shape it so that it fits to your hand really nice. Or you could add a smaller detachable gun to the underside like on an m-16 w/ a grenade launcher on it. And the gun would look tougher and less stringbeany which I happen to know alot about seeing as i am 6'4" and 140pounds I turn sideways and no one can see me:)
This is for those who are making a homemade and who can't get a decent clip system to work. Two shots are better than one!

Edited by elf_avec_gun, 11 November 2006 - 04:04 PM.

[davidbowie]

U kewd a;;so lurn 2 5p3ll omg.

But seriously. I've made quite a few wood grips. It takes a lot longer, and it's really not any more comfortable than a properly made 3-section PVC grip.

As for your other suggestions:

Rails: Been done, but you really don't need flashlights, sights, or lasers on a nerf gun.

Underbarrel grenade launcher/shotgun: Think about this for a second. The gun has to be a lot SMALLER than the blaster it's mounted on, yet have MORE power to be a decent shotgun. I'm not even going to go into grenades. Why not just make THAT gun your primary? Better yet, scale it up to the size of the gun it was going to be mounted on, and it will be a beast!

More than one trigger, more than one dart:

To do this on a pneumatic, you would need as many valves, barrels, and triggers as you would like to have shots, not to mention you would need to scale up the reservoir by a factor much larger than the amount of shots needed to make up for wasted air, unless you're using smaller firing chambers that fill from a main tank. At this point, you're pretty much just building seperate blasters.

To do this on a springer, you would need to build completely seperate blasters then attach them together and have them fire from one grip.

On top of that, any more than two triggers will make for an extremely awkward, uncomfortable gun.

There's really no point in attaching them together. It would be far more comfortable to just carry more than one blaster.

[Powersniper]

DB, Having more than one blaster on a gun can be akward but think of this, say your running away from like 3-5 guys and your dogging darts, sprinting like your gunna die, and are goin' round coners like greased lightin'. Then, al of a sudden, the gun you have runs out a ammo! OH WAIT, now I can pull out my other blaster and- bam- you just got shot. or...
It could have been... goin' round coners like greased lightin' and ran out a ammo, oh wait I have more!!! AND, it's loaded already!!!!!!! bam bam bam, you got all of em (yes well maybye. Even if you only got one or two of them of them, that would be pretty good).
Maybye it wouldn't be like that persay... whatever

[elf avec gun]

I am sorry about my spelling it isnt my best subject. I can't spell for the life of me, but I will try so if you could please drop it I would be very appreciative.
Then on to other things... have you ever actuallly seen an m-16 with a grenade launcher on it? It has one trigger with another one infront of it. And it isn't weird to hold or use. Just look it up on wikipedia or something.
I didnt mean the nerf equivelant of an actual grenade launcher being attached to it. I just used that as an example of the Trigger setup I was trying to describe to you. About the no lights and lasers stuff: haven't you ever nerfed in the dark before?
I said most of that stuff because I just think that the TAR looks well a little naked... it reminds me of a really short speargun. I am just suggesting that he add some...embelishment.

Thank you! I am so glad that someone else was able to see the logic behind the two shots concept.

Edited by elf_avec_gun, 11 November 2006 - 04:11 PM.

[Pineapple]

Hey look everyone, I brought out my mallet. It's called "9999".

I'm about to use it shortly.

Hey powersniper, and elf_avec_gun; if you haven't been reading up lately, with the exception of Boltsniper and a few others, most of the homemades follow a certain pattern, basically what Carbon has simplified to the point of most everyone's ability; the simple plunger/catch/barrel system. Others have embellished the design and added magazines, tube feeds, stocks, etc.

A pretty good percentage of us don't really care if a homemade "looks real" or not; we're more concerned with function over form. Though Boltsniper wipes us out both ways. But he's special like that.

I've noticed a trend; most of the ones who are most critical and picky about people's homemade contributions have NEVER MADE ONE, OR AT LEAST TRIED. I guess the old adage holds true:

"Them who says, don't know",
"Them who knows, don't say".


About multiple shot integrations; I'll respectively disagree with davidbowie. I've owned three Nerf blasters that had more than one blaster hybridized into one unit. My current Sawtooth has a SM1500 as it's primary, and a SecretShot 2 as the backup. Same theory about reloading with one shot ready on tap. I only did those because I had single shot blasters and don't like carrying sidearms in cargo pockets, hence the purpose of the integrated 2nd or 3rd blaster. I now am a believer in turrets as the best multi-shot method for most general-purpose Nerfing, and I seldom integrate anything anymore.

I say this with the utmost sincerity; if you want so damn badly a Nerf blaster that looks like an M4, M-16 with a M-203 grenade launcher, an MP-5, a shotgun, or anything else "real" looking, and you cannot afford an Airsoft rifle, try going to www.kapowwe.com and search all their real looking toy guns. Then integrate some Nerf firing gear into them. You'd get some experience building something, and have the look you guys seem to criticize everyone about that's lacking.

And, it might keep you away from the computer for a few moments.

About the spelling; there are some foreign kids who are really productive members of NerfHaven, who are trying to master the English language. We exempt them from the rule on good English because they're just special like that.

Anyone who is a product of United States public or private school education should be able to at LEAST type a couple of sentences without making the average NH member strain just trying to read it. And we don't take any excuses, especially when folks like 3DBBQ and taz22 are trying their darndest to create good posts.

So consider this a fair warning.


-Piney-

[AssassinNF]

I agree with Piney, intregrations and guns with backup shots are very useful, and in most cases it works even better than dual wielding does. My current homemade is basically just two guns glued together that are cocked at the same time, and it looks very promising.

The Longshot is aranged like an M16/M203 combo, and it looks like it'll be comfortable enough. We'll have to see how that works out...

And seriously, powersniper/elfavecgun, stop making our eyes bleed. If I had a dollar for every time I heard that retarded "spelling isn't my best subject" excuse, I'd own Hasbro by now. Just use a little grammar, and you won't get your brains splattered all over the wall by someone's (Piney's/Shindig's) 9999 mallet.

[davidbowie]

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On top of that, any more than two triggers will make for an extremely awkward, uncomfortable gun.

Backup shots and integrations are great, but they don't make up for a clip system.

[elf avec gun]

First off I would like to apologize for my excuse of "spelling isnt my best subject"
Also as I stated above, I am not trying to tell people to make their nerf guns look like M-16s (in fact I think that that would be really stupid) I was just using the example of how m16s can have a grenade launcher attached to the underside and how effective the trigger infront of a trigger thing works.

DB I definitly agree that a clip system is generally far more effective than a backup shot and an integration are, but for those semi-new nerf modders who cant get a decent clip system to work backup shots and integrations are the only options.

Edited by elf_avec_gun, 11 November 2006 - 04:15 PM.