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SSPB Pump Replacement and Large Tanks

#1 User is offline   iamthatcat 

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 01:42 PM

SSPB's need too many pumps to be really effective as a sidearm. Here's my go at a pump replacement. The factory pump is simply chopped off leaving an inlet for the new pump. I used a water gun pump from a Buzz-Bee Equalizer. It's about 1" in outer diameter and 6" long. A thinner pump would likely add pressure and perform better. A 45 degree PVC elbow is used to support the pump and act as a grip. I show 2 sizes of tank expansion. I think the smaller will be sufficient for most. I am trying a wye out on the larger with good results.

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Here are most of the required parts. You will need some tubing to nest around the pumps outlet. I used the outlet pipe from a UMB pump. You may want some 1/2" thinwall PVC to move the grip back.

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First let's chop up the SSPB. We'll use various methods to keep debris out of the guts. A bit of foam works well for the pump inlet. I used grease for the valve this time. A little electrical tape keeps dust out of the trigger. Twist the barrel peg out with needle nose pliers. Stuff a piece of crumpled up, wet paper towel tightly down the barrel to protect the valve from debris on this rough cut. Pull the pump handle all the way out. Chop your SSPB here.

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Clean all the debris away and add some white lithium grease to the valve area. Try to get it behind the cross or remove the cross with a razor knife. This will keep debris out. I also removed a support boss at this point. It will get in the way of the grip later.

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Chop a little more to get past the cross without hurting the valve. Scoop out the debris and grease with any small tool. I also used a q-tip to clean the valve out thoroughly. If done carefully there should be no need to flush the tank.

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Chop a coupler in half, just behind the ridge.

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I chamfered the area around the valve a little just for experimentation's sake. Glue on the coupler. While it's drying we can build and fit the tank.

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Now onto the tank expansion. I used a PVC stub for the larger tank. I'm not sure if there is a real performance difference. It's a bit trickier to shape than a CPVC stub. Both tanks use a 1/2" PVC elbow. The larger tank uses a PVC endcap instead of a nested CPVC one. Nest a small length of PVC inbetween the elbow and the endcap for the larger.

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Dremel the area under the PVC stub until it's paper thin.

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Carefully slice out the center. Sorry about the recycled pic.

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Afterwards I melted the edges a bit with a wood burning tool. This is optional. It's easy to see that support boss that needs to be removed in this pic.

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Test fit the tank. I kept everything close to the SSPB so I could glue it in a few places for strength. Solvent weld the tank together and let it dry. I affixed the tank to the SSPB with super glue but epoxy or solvent welding is a good choice too.

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Ok let's move on to the pump. I used a fairly slim pump but a slimmer one would raise the pressure in the tank a bit more. This pump needed the 90 degree bend chopped off to fit of course. This is still to small to nest into the SSPB's pump tube so we'll need a small section of tubing to make up the difference. The outlet tube from an old UMB pump is perfect.

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Here it is chopped up and test fitted. I used the tape as a guide to line up the pump with a mold seam on the bottom of the SSPB. Solvent weld everything in. I added a filet of superglue to the join later for extra strength. Now we can fit the pump support/grip handle.

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Here it is glued up. Add some glue to the elbow (or thinwall spacer) and pump face when assembling, to support the back of the pump well.

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Chop 2 slots down the elbow. The length of the slots can be manipulated to change the grip dimensions. I just twisted the waste material with needle nose to remove it. I needed to dremel away some material from inside the elbow on the shorter grip. I also needed to add a (notched) 1/2" thinwall spacer to the longer grip. Later we can add a length of PVC and a 1/2" endcap to the grip. I used thinwall for weight. Glue the elbow both to the pump and to the SSPB for strength.

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Now let's make the pump work. I used a piece of 1/2" PVC (conduit) with a piece of CPVC whomped into it. Shave a portion of the PVC to fit inside your pump. The CPVC is whomped in and reamed out until the pump tube slides through it freely. I affixed this with electrical tape for easy maintenance. I added an additional piece of CPVC to the end of the pump to affix my elbow and pump handle.

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The smaller expansion takes 3 pumps for 100' ranges. The larger works a homemade wye at the same ranges but takes 5-6 pumps.

This post has been edited by iamthatcat: 06 April 2012 - 10:47 AM

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:40 PM

Great job! Your work with SSPB's and Jolts are amazing, and I wonder what you could do if you applied this type of thinking towards larger blasters.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 03:35 PM

So you finally did it! Man, this thing looks more like a homemade than a mod with it being 90% pvc!
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 03:37 PM

Ah-mazing as usual. How long is the hopper clip you are using? And the ranges are with domes or slugs?

View PostZorn, on 05 July 2011 - 02:10 PM, said:

If two powerful is a problem then just go with one powerful. I guess this style of hopper will work even beyond three powerful..


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Posted 05 April 2012 - 03:59 PM

Thanks much!

@KoRnEd I am working towards larger stuff for sure. Jolts and SSPB's are cheap practice!



@mysterio The hopper is about 8" and feeds perfectly with 1.1" - 1.2" darts. I'm using glue domes but super crappy foam. With good foam and slugs ranges should be the same or better.
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 04:29 PM

Hey cat, great job on the writeup! If I have any extra SSPB's after my Hunter integration project I'll definitely do this to at least one, these are amazing! My only problem is that I only have one extra pump on me, and it sucks. Hopefully I'll pick up some good stuff on my next thrift store raid :)

I know I'll folloe this write up for the CPVC barrel and coupler, but I may have to take a different approach on the tank using vinyl tubing so I can keep things smaller. Again, nice job on everything.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 04:45 PM

I am a fan of that cat. You will be seeing the funky version of this as soon as I finish current projects. Thank you. Wish I could have beaten ya to if.
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 08:56 AM

Wow! You are a genious with the these small guns. I can never seem to be precice enough to do such small and detailed mods. How strong is the connection of the pump to the original gun? It seems as if it would be pretty easy to accidently hit it on something(or someone), and the pump would crack off. Don't get me wrong, I swear by super glue, but that pump outlett tube is pretty small/weak.
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 09:17 AM

The pump should end up supported by a fair amount of material. Truthfully the larger tank version has a fault there. I clumsily repositioned the pump during gluing and it dried slightly proud of the sspb's pump tube. If you glue it in good it's tough. You have to add glue to the face of the pump and the sspb's pump tube/nested pipes combo. It'll be the way you'll do it when you try it.

edit : I added a pic that was needed there. Thanks hamoidar.

@ mysterio - Here's a better pic of that wye.

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 06:58 PM

Sweet writeup, very detailed + easy to follow. I bought 6 SSPB's on clearance so I will be doing this to all of them!

View Posthamoidar, on 06 April 2012 - 08:56 AM, said:

How strong is the connection of the pump to the original gun? It seems as if it would be pretty easy to accidently hit it on something(or someone), and the pump would crack off.


I was thinking the same thing, so I built the pump INTO the handle, then ran a tube from the pump into the SSPB:

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The pump is from a SuperSoaker Max-D 3000 2-pack from target. The pump handle fits perfectly into 1/2" PVC, didn't even have to glue it in.

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