Posted 05 March 2011 - 11:30 PM
Perhaps you can avoid both issues by taking a slightly different approach as this SpudFiles member did. At the very least, you can eliminate the polycarb shell in favor of a simple [Fimo] grip mounted directly to the chamber with a pushrod trigger linked to the piston. Better yet, (and I don't mean to knock the PVAT) you can skip the sealing issues with a simple fixed diaphragm coaxial gun.
In any case, good work. The journey towards the truly perfect Nerf gun gets shorter with every new creation posted. Maybe we can get there faster if we don't discourage new builders from taking on challenges.
This post has been edited by PVC Arsenal 17: 05 March 2011 - 11:31 PM
Posted 06 March 2011 - 07:51 AM
Posted 07 March 2011 - 07:03 AM
This comes back to your assertion that someone who's knowledgeable and trust worthy should be allowed to use a homemade air gun. Should I line everyone up at Apoc and count off: "Douchebag, Douchebag, Douchebag, Good Dude, Douchebag, Good Dude..."? It's just not feasable.
Anyway, I don't mean to lend an air of negativity to this thread, but the topic was broached and I won't want to discuss it in a war thread. It's a badass nerf gun, and it looks like a lot of fun. I love that people like you and slug continue to make these monstrosities. Even if you can't use them at some big clusterfuck of a nerf war, you can certainly find somewhere to shoot your friends with them. Besides, one of these days someone will make something so simple and replicable that everyone will move towards it. Before the plusbow a lot of wars banned homemade guns altogether, and now I rarely see an actual nerf gun anymore. Point is, don't worry so much about what other people will allow. Throw your own wars and kick your friends' asses until they all want one.
Posted 07 March 2011 - 12:43 PM
Posted 07 March 2011 - 03:11 PM
Sounds like the best game of Duck, Duck, Goose! ever!
[15:51] <+Rhadamanthys> titties
[15:51] <+jakejagan> titties
[15:51] <+Lucian> boobs
[15:51] <+Gears> titties
[15:51] <@Draconis> Titties.
[15:52] <+Noodle> why is this so hard?
Posted 07 March 2011 - 05:09 PM
I think Klaviel's chrono may have been off-calibration that day; one of the east coast wars (Grid Core, I think?) also tested blasters with a paintball field's official chronograph, and got fps readings that were about 3/2 times what we got.
In any case, the point holds it's ground: lighter and/or less aerodynamic darts can act has limiter on....
....christ, no I'm not going to comment on that subject in a writeup thread. That would be bad form.
Posted 07 March 2011 - 05:17 PM
Posted 07 March 2011 - 08:39 PM
All fair points. The utility (and fun) of the shell is something I hadn't considered. Configuring the gun in the manner I suggested can be awkward and problematic as I've experienced on similar projects. That said, please allow me to clarify that I didn't mean to insult your work in any way. In fact I think it's a neat blend of the two main homemade gun traditions.
I'd also like to ask if you can quantify or offer comparison for the force required to retract the bolt, both with and without the mechanical advantage provided by the trigger.
Posted 08 March 2011 - 05:03 AM
Sorry to disappoint, Talio, but I don't fuck men. I mean, tits and vaginas are where it's at. Mmmmm.... booooooobs.
Respectful Nerf doesn't bash Noobs!
Posted 08 March 2011 - 10:54 AM
Posted 08 March 2011 - 03:55 PM
@PVC: yeah, the first thing that came to mind after reading your suggestion was how would I do the trigger? It would be alot harder I think. I didn't take any insult at all. I very much appreciate your suggestions and comments, as they are well thought out and constructive.
Filled, wiht 4-6 pumps, the bolt is very difficult to grasp and pull by hand. Thjis is because I have a very strong spring in there, as well as tons o' air pressure. The washer helps a little, so maybe at 4 or 5 pumps I could still pull it. With the trigger, its much easier. at 5-6 pumps it's a stiff pull (insert sex joke), but not unmanageable by any means. The only challenge is that at the higher pressure you have to opent he valve faster to achieve max performance. This means squeezing harder (again, insert sex joke).
@ nerfgeek: it uses a lever trigger. it's very similar to a lever trigger 4B. the slot in the trigger is really just to give it a little play, which is actually necessary. It is not at all a slide trigger, as that would put a huge amount of stress on the joint betweent he trigger peice and the fork that sits in fornt of the washer.
@utahnerf: Yeah, the shell ties everything together nicely in my opinion. that's another good point about the shell; it's very solid and stable. I literally just modified the sideplates to accomodate my visual needs, and cut the handles differently so the'd be more comfortable.
Thanks for the questions guys, I hope I've answered them adaquately, and if I haven't just let me know. Keep 'em coming!!!
Posted 26 March 2011 - 12:58 PM