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#1 taerKitty

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 03:34 AM

Summary:
Quick, dirty and simple way to modify a 4B to shoot streamlines or stefans with a breech.

Tools and supplies:
- File
- Hacksaw or pipe cutter
- E-Tape
- Packing tape (the 2" wide variety)
- PETG barrel
- Recon barrel
- Wire tie (such as from a LongShot box)
- Weak spring (like from a Maverick dart peg)

I started with a Lego Atlantis Harpoon Blaster, which is a fancy way of saying 4B.

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To keep the pump from rattling, I wrapped some packing tape around the end. The trick here is to wrap it sloppily, so it crushes into the space.

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To keep the trigger from rattling, I tied one end with a stray piece of wire (it used to hold a Longshot to the box) and slipped a weak spring between the trigger and forward air reservoir.

I chopped the end off the barrel with the pipe cutter (a hacksaw will do fine.) Then I took my time filing away a breech for it. No dimensions here - just file until the dart can be pushed in.

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I'm still working my way through OMC's PETG. Good stuff. This is a 10" length. I have some 12" lengths, but they're not here and I wanted to get something out of this puppy. The guts of the 4B are black, and I don't believe "black guns automatically shoot 20' further." While this is an office toy, I still want it to be obviously a toy. That said, I took a hacksaw to a Recon barrel extension piece and wrapped the PETG with sloppy packing tape. Again, sloppy is the key - this way, the barrel will force the crumpled tape to conform and hold.

The breech is made by cutting a length of PETG lengthwise, snapping it over the 4B's muzzle, wrapping the ends with e-tape to get a good seal and then the whole length of it with packing tape to keep the air from sneaking out the middle.

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Here's the completed shot.

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Breech open. Note the Recon barrel keeps the breech from sliding forward too far. Also, the PETG need some cramming to fit into the 4B's bore. This does the equivalent of a 'tightening ring' in an Angel Breech - it will seat the dart nice and snug.

The breech doesn't need to open that far to load a dart. Opening it an inch will be enough to angle the dart in, be it Streamline or Stefan.

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Breech closed.

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Firing grip. The trigger is on the top.

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Conclusions:

- It's quick. From start to finish, it took two hours, most of it filing the breech out. With a Dremel, it would probably take minutes.

- It's flimsy. The PETG barrel is just crammed into the 4B muzzle. If I were to take this out to a war, I'd reinforce the joint with some thing. Probably plumbers' goop.

- It's not waterproof. The packing tape turns soggy and sickly-sticky when it gets wet. If this were going to a war, I'd use somethin different. Probably hot glue to round out the cross-section, then e-tape.

- It's ugly. That's a feature. No enclosure, no PJ. It's just done.

- Ranges? We don't say no steenkin' ranges. I don't have a 100' tape measure, but it shot n paces (not specifying what 'n' is, because we all know paces are not a legitimate means to measure.)

Edited by taerKitty, 07 January 2010 - 05:22 PM.

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#2 nerfer9

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 03:47 AM

So this BBBB has a lever for a trigger? Thats fantastic! That means it can take more pressure than a regular BBBB.
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#3 Blue

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 03:55 AM

Cool. Same internals as a berserker.
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#4 Keith

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 05:27 AM

How was the fit/seal of the pump's o-ring? Hope since they made the trigger better the o-ring will be better than blue/green and orange/white 4Bs.
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#5 taerKitty

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 09:44 AM

I'm not a BBBB / Beserker connoisseur, so I can't compare the O-ring seals. Here's what I can state for facts that may help in this regard:

- Trigger / pin catch is as you saw. The lever is actually a floating plate that is formed around one of the three tubes that join the two air reservoirs. By wire-tying one end of it down, I made it into a pull-trigger (and stopped it from rattling.)

- The overpressure valve kicks in on the fourth pump. It feels pretty solid to me. I didn't lube it or wrap the head or otherwise try to improve the seal.

Hope that helps!
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#6 Hi Yah

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 06:34 PM

Nice jpb. Also if the o-ring is bad on this gun too you could replace it with a Danco #17 o-ring.
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The yellow balls are also slightly smaller in diameter than the green ones.

#7 Samzilla

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 11:10 PM

Cool. Same internals as a berserker.



Whoa, that's great news -- that they back-fitted the Berserker improvements into the BBBB design!
Paint scheme doesn't look half bad, either.
I'm definitely going to be checking the Lego shelves at the stores now.


Is that really a good thing? The trigger of the berserker is great but the my new berserker tank is barely hitting 80 ft with a plugged pump (i know you don't support pump plugging bob put this guy wasn barely hitting 70 before hand). Very nice though taer! kinda reminds me of Blue's big blast mod but with a schweet breech. Is it uncomfortable awkward to fire?
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#8 taerKitty

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Posted 07 January 2010 - 02:03 AM

I can't speak to the Beserker, either. Looks like a lot of fun, but I haven't picked one up.

As for this skeletonized 4B, it's very comfortable to fire. The pump acts as a buttstock, and having the top-trigger is okay - the hand wraps very easily around the rear tank + pump piston.

If I can find a good tube of some thin material (PETG? Brass? Some other metal?), I plan to attach some other trigger + handle arrangement and have the trigger be downward, but a sliding breech to accept a CS6 clip.

For now, it's a breeched single-shot blaster.
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#9 Samzilla

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Posted 07 January 2010 - 02:37 AM

Do think i can get a close up and normal pic of the tank in the open shell (it would be nice to see how the trigger works) or a pic of the tank next to the open shell (aka is it a normal bbbb tank shape with a bereserker trigger?)
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