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#1 User is offline   NightCabbage 

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  Posted 11 February 2009 - 04:20 AM

Hey guys

I'm thinking of starting a new project... a Nerf Gun Database.

It would contain information, reviews, comments, mods and pictures for every Nerf (and non-Nerf) gun.

Things I would need from you:

a) an idea of whether this is a good and useful tool or not

b) help to actualy populate the database (given I don't own all the guns, etc.)

What do you think?

It'd be completely web-based, free to use, etc.

Other websites that come to mind...

Nerf Center
http://www.nerfcenter.com/
- heavily out of date, but a good resource nonetheless

Orange's Nerf Page
http://www.freewebs.com/superorange/
- up to date, but only contains pictures
- might ask/beg to use some of the pictures for the database (giving credit to their source)

NerfWiki
http://www.nerfhq.co...le=Blaster_List
- up to date, but limited in terms of content
- limited pictures, but good potential if it were expanded upon
- doesn't contain non-nerf blasters (like the Koosh Vortex range)

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#2 User is offline   BRF726 

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 06:57 AM

Have you visited the mod directory? I believe that's about half or maybe just all of what you are trying to do. Good luck nonetheless.

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 07:28 AM

How about you work on making the wiki better instead of starting from scratch?
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Posted 11 February 2009 - 07:33 AM

I'm with Boba. I believe the current Nerf Wiki is at http://projectnerf.com/wiki/Main_Page. Also, in my opinion, a database should be more focused on facts rather than subjective things such as reviews/comments.
QUOTE(dizzyduck @ Apr 1 2009, 09:14 PM) View Post

Forget about ranges; range means nothing if your blaster is a giant rattle after three shots.

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 12:11 PM

As soon as i read the title I was gonna flame you and tell you to search, buttttt you did do some research.

I like the idea, but you should definately not start from scratch, the amount of time to do so would be tremendous and probably a little scary.

May i suggest a page that you can use with every nerf gun ever created, each with its own drop-down menu to direct the user to exactly what they are looking for?

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#6 User is offline   NightCabbage 

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 03:18 PM

Well, I was just thinking that id' be handy to have some extra features...

- The ability for users to add comments/short reviews/ratings for different guns, etc.

- A gallery of images for the guns.

- An advanced search function, allowing users to search by:
name (Recon)
company (Hasbro)
brand (Nerf)
range (N-Strike)
ammo (Streamline)
fire type (auto-loading manual)
etc.

- Provide a list of modifications to the particular gun

- Stock statistics
size
weight
price (rrp)
range
load time
fire rate
etc.

that type of thing :)

Amongst other things, I'm a database and web developer (programmer), so it wouldn't be that tricky for me to make. The problem with the current ones is exactly that they're not built specifically for this purpose. They lack most of the above features.

But, as I said, if you guys feel it's not a good idea, then I won't make it - that's what this thread's for :)

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 03:45 PM

The things you say are wrong:

View PostNightCabbage, on Feb 11 2009, 07:20 AM, said:

It would contain information, reviews, comments, mods and pictures for every Nerf (and non-Nerf) gun. All in the nerfer wiki.

Things I would need from you:

a) an idea of whether this is a good and useful tool or not I use the Nerferwiki all the time. I've found out extremely helpful things from there, that have influenced mods of mine immensely

B) help to actualy populate the database (given I don't own all the guns, etc.) Wiki is open source.

It'd be completely web-based, free to use, etc. Wiki = yes.

Other websites that come to mind...

Nerf Center
http://www.nerfcenter.com/
- heavily out of date, but a good resource nonetheless

Orange's Nerf Page
http://www.freewebs.com/superorange/
- up to date, but only contains pictures
- might ask/beg to use some of the pictures for the database (giving credit to their source)

NerfWiki
http://www.nerfhq.co...le=Blaster_List
- up to date, but limited in terms of content Not the current wiki
- limited pictures, but good potential if it were expanded upon Nerferwiki imported from here, tons of pictures, complements of Badger's collection
- doesn't contain non-nerf blasters (like the Koosh Vortex range) Nerfer wiki contains many



View PostNightCabbage, on Feb 11 2009, 06:18 PM, said:

Well, I was just thinking that id' be handy to have some extra features...

- The ability for users to add comments/short reviews/ratings for different guns, etc. Wiki's deal in facts, as databases should be.

- A gallery of images for the guns. If you can manipulate a simple website code, you'd have access to the folder where the wiki's pictures are kept with ease.

- An advanced search function, allowing users to search by:
name (Recon)
company (Hasbro)
brand (Nerf)
range (N-Strike)
ammo (Streamline)
fire type (auto-loading manual)
etc.
Nerferwiki already has it. Ta da. Get to work if you want more options.

- Provide a list of modifications to the particular gun Already in every description.

- Stock statistics
size
weight
price (rrp)
range
load time
fire rate
etc.
[color="#009900"]As much factual information is available is provided. Range and rate of fire and such are relative, and msrp's can be hard to find. Again, it's open source. Feel free to put as much work into it as Slug (but no more, you may go insane).
that type of thing :)

Amongst other things, I'm a database and web developer (programmer), so it wouldn't be that tricky for me to make. The problem with the current ones is exactly that they're not built specifically for this purpose. They lack most of the above features.

But, as I said, if you guys feel it's not a good idea, then I won't make it - that's what this thread's for :)

It's a good idea, but there's no need to reinvent the wheel.
Teehee.

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 03:54 PM

Ok, sounds like people are happy enougn with the current Nerf Wiki :)

That's good - it's exactly what I wanted to find out - cheers guys!

I might do some updating of the wiki lol

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 04:07 PM

Alright, so if I'm editing the Wiki (I don't want to tread on anyone's toes), what level of detail can be put into the descriptions?

I find that they don't have a lot of information there...

eg. the SuperMaxx 500...

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An air-powered blaster with a single barrel that has excellent range and accuracy. It has not been popular primarily due to its extreme rarity.

These can develop irreparable leaks as they are used heavily, or pumped to too high of a pressure level.


That's all that's said about it.

Can I add things like this in?

Takes 2 pumps to fully load the gun
Has nowhere to store additional ammo on the gun
Occasionally jams, and must be taken apart to fix (easy to fix)
Comes with a target board

(and also modify Stock Ammunition from "Larami Darts" to "6 Larami Darts" which is what comes in the box - or "1 Larami Dart" which is what fits in the gun? Or just leave it be, and mention it in the content?)

Is this kind of edit acceptable?

What about mentioning stock range & accuracy - is that too subjective to mention in the wiki?

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#10 User is offline   NightCabbage 

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  Posted 11 February 2009 - 04:08 PM

Ah, it gave me an internal server error and then double-posted :/

Can a mod please delete this?

Thanks!

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 04:11 PM

View PostNightCabbage, on Feb 11 2009, 08:20 AM, said:

NerfWiki
http://www.nerfhq.co...le=Blaster_List
1. up to date, but limited in terms of content
2. limited pictures, but good potential if it were expanded upon
3. doesn't contain non-nerf blasters (like the Koosh Vortex range)

1. Only FACTUAL and non-subjective information is added. Number of pumps, packaging details, and so forth are not particularly interesting, informative, or worthwhile. Gun reviews are also not acceptable beyond specific notes mentioning common durability or component quality issues.
2. Then provide copyright-free pictures. Other than Orange's page it has the largest collection of blaster images. The vast majority of which were provided by just badger.
3. Yes it does, just search for Koosh. The blaster list even has promotional blasters included

I personally spent 3 months worth of lunch breaks at work compiling the backbone of the Blaster List and all the individual blaster pages.

View PostNightCabbage, on Feb 11 2009, 07:18 PM, said:

1. The ability for users to add comments/short reviews/ratings for different guns, etc.

2. A gallery of images for the guns.

3. An advanced search function, allowing users to search by:
3a. name (Recon)
3b. company (Hasbro)
3c. brand (Nerf)
3d. range (N-Strike)
3f. ammo (Streamline)
3g fire type (auto-loading manual)
etc.

4. Provide a list of modifications to the particular gun

5. Stock statistics

1. NOT worthwhile. The wiki is meant to be a technical reference, not a product review site.
2. Already on each blaster page. If you have an image to ad send it to me.
http://www.captainslug.com/nerf/wiki/
3a. http://www.projectne...ki/Blaster_List
3b. Those pages already exist. Kenner/Larami/Hasbro blasters are sub-categorized by product line. Other brands are likewise sorted by brand.
http://www.projectne...m/wiki/Buzz_Bee
3d. I DO NOT WANT TO SEE RANGE FIGURES OF ANY KIND ANYWHERE IN THE WIKI
3e. http://www.projectne...wiki/Ammunition
3g. http://www.projectne..._Identification
You can even refine by color, barrel/post number, and others.

4. The modification directory here is slightly more up to date, but is mirrored on the wiki.

5. You have no idea how much time that would take for the few people that have collected a huge number of blasters to measure and weigh all of their blasters. Especially absurd since those specifics are not worth the effort of databasing.

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 04:14 PM

View PostCaptainSlug, on Feb 12 2009, 11:11 AM, said:

1. I don't see what you mean.
2. Then provide copyright-free pictures. Other than Orange's page it has the largest collection of blaster images. The vast majority of which were provided by just badger.
3. Yes it does, just search for Koosh.

No, that's cool, we've established that I'm not going to build a database :)

I'll use the ProjectNerf Wiki :)

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 04:27 PM

View PostCaptainSlug, on Feb 12 2009, 11:11 AM, said:

1. Number of pumps, packaging details, and so forth are not particularly interesting, informative, or worthwhile.

Are you serious? :)

That's the main kind of thing I want to know about a gun when I'm looking to buy it.
Statistics and functionality of the guns.

View PostCaptainSlug, on Feb 12 2009, 11:11 AM, said:

I personally spent 3 months worth of lunch breaks at work compiling the backbone of the Blaster List and all the individual blaster pages.

That's why I want to ask about making changes - I really don't want to break anything you've spent a lot of time making.

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 04:46 PM

View PostNightCabbage, on Feb 11 2009, 08:27 PM, said:

View PostCaptainSlug, on Feb 12 2009, 11:11 AM, said:

1. Number of pumps, packaging details, and so forth are not particularly interesting, informative, or worthwhile.

Are you serious? :)

Yes I am serious.
Number of pumps is too variable to list. Overpressure valves break or drift, and plugging it lowers the number.
That kind of information requires more context than a reference guide can realistically offer, so you'll just have to search the forum or read up on the modifications done to that blaster.

Packaging details only apply to blasters still in their box.

I think you're mistaking the Wiki for a used Nerf blaster buyer's guide. That's not what it was intended for. You'll have to judge for yourself as to whether or not a particular blaster is worth wanting/buying.

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 04:54 PM

Hmm, so the wiki is more geared towards long term use and modification of the guns?

See that's why I wanted to build my own database - so I could put information in there relevant to me, and new nerfers.

Information about stock, new in box guns, etc.

Currently you're right, you had to read up and research to find this information out.
Which is why I wanted to put it all in one place :)

Kind of like a new version of nerfcenter

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