I modded one of those guns. It looked like a glock and I really liked it so now it shoots really small stefans. I get like 20 ft with it. It'll be a good backup weapon.

I've got an idea on firing using CO2.

Basicly, this is an idea i got while looking at a Tompson sub-mechine gun (tommy gun). I dont know alot about CO2... so this is just a guess.

Picture here

The Black thing that kinda looks like a CO2 tank is a. . . .You guessed it! A co2 tank!

In back of it is a spring

In front of it is a bar going throgh the PVC. Attached to it is a rod/pole.

Then some fittings to reduce the size of the PVC down to 1/2".

Next is two 90* 1/2" elbows.

Then comes the barrle, with some kinda magazine on top of it.

I'm not sure how the mag will work. . .  this is just my idea about firing repeted shots of CO2.

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What happens is the CO2 tank is pushed forward by the spring. The Rod/pole presses the pin on the CO2 tank releasing the CO2. The CO2 travels throgh the elbows to the barrel and launches the dart. The force of the CO2 being released blows the tank back and compreses the spring then to whole cycle starts over again.

It's just an idea...
What do you think?

I thought this was a rather good concept. I'm going to try to make something similar and I'd like your feedback as to whether you think it'll work or blowup in my face. I'm hoping mine will have a large gravity feed clip and the CO2 cartriage wil be held within 2 1/2 different chambers. One inside another insde a partiale cover. I hope to get my blueprints up soon.
Mine will also have a trigger.

the co2 would have collar around it made of something and the trigger would be made like a normal nerf trigger. pulling the trigger makes it go down release it and it pops back up in front of the collar. I'd really like to have this idea work in some way whether it be co2 or not. I'd like to here your ideas for the gas design.

yea I was thinking of sealing the barrel earlier. i could put something over the breech if its a blowback and have the breech cover conncted to the part that slides back, that way after every shot the gun would reload (slides back) and reseal the barrel (slides forward)

I've been wanting an rf20 but I haven't discectd mine yet. Afraid I'd mess it up but I hope to be gettimg another one in the near future. If I could make a larger version of its workings I think I could apply it easily to my machine gun

Attention everyone, I am proud to anounce that my testing is complete and I have developed the first working nerf shotgun. It's muzzle load which is the only bad thing but with 5 pumps I can shoot 10 darts 20-30 feet (I haven't measuerd so its around that distance). I have a small problem with a leak around the pump and after thats fixed the "Longinus Gun" will make its first appearance on the internet.

Not to be trashing you or anything, but it's not the first shotgun. Someone on NH developed a shotgun round, turning any PVC modded gun into a shotgun. This is how to make one: Take FBR, quarter it lengthwise, put a glob of hot-glue on each quarter. The spread is great. So no, it's not the first working nerf shotgun.

He means it is the first shotgun that is actually designed as one, not just able to use ammo that makes it like a shotgun.

yep, he's got it

The punmp is a ballon pump. They sell them in all the dollar stores around where I live. It's the same pump on all of his guns. I have one, somewhere.

Ok let an idiot ask a question here. What exactly is needed in a loser rifle?
Long Barrel? Good Air compacity? What?

ok, really sorry to double post, but here is the pic if you want to see it. At my dads suggestion I made another barrel thats interchangeable so I can switch it between double and single barrel.

BTW, it is upside down in the picture. (just in case you can't figure that out)

Now, here's the question:

Are the rumors that one dart will shoot fine and the other won't, true? Does one dart get way more range than the other when fired?

~Vintage

mine does that if you use stock darts. you have to use stefans. and if you like this wait until you see my v.2

Sorry about my earlier post. Now that I've seen a pic, everything is different. You definately did a good job on it. A question I have is, what kind of pump is that? I am cureous as to where you got it.

it's a balloon pump and if you ever see one like this run. Far and fast. I wouldn't use this pump again unless my life depended on it.

P.S. Love the respray job. . .

If any of you have seen the anime Evangelion then you know why it has that name and color. Just thought I'd add this.

OK, right now, I am more determined than ever to make a full automatic nerf gun. or at least one that repeats. Anyway, please post your ideas on the subject here. The only way I can think of is to use co2 and I don't want to without a regulator (expensive and bulky). So, since this is a brainstorming thread, lets brainstorm.

The issue with the magazine being fed by gravity is that it can easily fault. My magazine design is a similar concept to any magazine fed firearm. Shells (1/2 in PVC) are fed upwards by a spring, whereupon a bolt slides back. When the bolt jams forward, the shell is slipped from the magazine. Then pull the bolt back and presto.I haven't been able to build an extractor claw yet, so I just take the shells out by hand. I hooked this system into my H2 Shell and powered it using Co2 Mini cartridges. It works just dandy. If I can figure out a means of creating sufficient gas to propel the bolt back automatically and a extractor mechanism, then it'd be fully automatic. Whoot!

wow, did you use a regulator? Can you post a pic

OK, right now, I am more determined than ever to make a full automatic nerf gun. or at least one that repeats. Anyway, please post your ideas on the subject here. The only way I can think of is to use co2 and I don't want to without a regulator (expensive and bulky). So, since this is a brainstorming thread, lets brainstorm.

three things-

one: be warned, you've got a flame or two coming your way at this rate. see #2, #3.

two: use the search function...next to the little magnifying glass at the top of your page. there have been more topics about this than there have been about paintball(don't even think about it)...and that's quite a lot. i helped you out a little bit

three: no one has ever made an automatic nerf gun. boltsniper (use that name in #2, you'll get nice results), to my knowledge has best homemade as far as ROF goes. if you really want to go back in time, there were two guys on nerfonline who claimed to have made a full-auto nerf gun...it used some sort of microwave reactor and super-ionic-particle-acceleration technology (so they claimed). anyway, they dissappeared for a while, one of showed up again years later and was flamed to death. end of story.

this isn't helpful and I don't care if I get flamed. As I say on nother forum: It is impossible for me to be a bigger idiot than I already am. I don't take offense to anything easily.

Now, back on topic, I know about boltsniper although I've never heard of the microwave guys. I am also aware that one (a homemade) has never been built.
Duh, I WANT TO BE THE FIRST, Thats why it says "automatic brainstorming (<keyword) thread" instead of "building an automatic". I made this thread in hopes that people would post their ideas and I would find one, or a combination that worked and try it.

Now, can we all please stop discussing the microwave guys as I have no intention of building a microwave powered machin gun. That is, unless it shoots hotdogs. Ok, so, lets try to get bac on topic.

Dude, you will never be first as long as I have anything to say. You can check out my thread, though. Since you seem to not understand the search function, this will give you a chance to figure it out. Search "nerf auto." Make sure you choose to search 'all topics' before you run it.

~Vintage

OK, I don't care if I'm the first. I just want an automatic nerf gun. And I know how to use the search function. They have it on all 13 forums I'm a member of. I'm just lazy.

actually, I've kind of moved off of the full auto and onto a gatling (sp?) gun like creation. I think that if I can at least make a crank driven gun (which has been done I belive. I know an official one has) I can then move on to the full auto. I also have a pretty good idea of how I'll do this, but not how it will be assembled. Can anyone tell me an estimate of what the best range would be on a srping powered?

If you're going to be going on a spring powered design, it's not going to be automatic, and gatling guns are very primative automatics. I suggest you decide what you want to do. Do you want a semiautomatic or an automatic. Will you be using spring, compressed air, or co2? Get the basics down and give some vauge idea of what you want to create. Try not to let other people brainstorm and then steal their ideas. Thats dumb and you're dumb and I don't like you.

This seems like a fine time to throw out an idea I've been thinking about for a while. Why not have a spring gun with a breech that reloads the gun every time you pull the plunger back? A lever system would have to be fabricated, and when made correctly it would go between the plunger shaft and the breech on the front of the gun. When the plunger shaft is pulled back, the breech barrel thing goes foreward enough to let a dart fall from the magazine and then would snap back around the dart. If this was implimented in a BBB, it would enable it to fire with the ROf of a Ratchet blast.

I know this might not help you, but you're not making it very easy so anyone who wants this idea can take it and build it. It would be fun to make it first, but it would also be fun to have the time and money to make it.

Awww, I don't like you either

That system is what I was planning to make, I just don't know how,but I have a lot of free time on my hands so I'll epeiriment with it and try to draw up plans.

cool, I kind of don't want to use CO2 because I'm afraid it'd blow up in my face, but I'd still like to see your designs.

in reply to the wheel idea. I think both wheel would have to be turning at the same speed for this to work. Plus, it'd flatten your dart.

I tried to use one of those ballon pumps once with a ball valve and barrel and I didn't work at all, i think it has something to do with the pump being made for a air tank that expands like a bladder or balloon, anyway cool gun just a little big.

here's my idea for a small folding barrel shotgun (sorry it's so hard to read, I can email you a better copy if you want.  I have two of those two shot shells and they fit perfectly into a 1 in. pvc barrel.  You can pump it up with a bike pump  or attach a bike Co2 thing like this, I have one and they work great, you just go through a lot of them fast.

thats actually my next project. It'll be double barrel tho.

Could you go into a little more detail about the distance each dart shoots? Such as, does one barrel shoot its darts alot further than the other one? Or do the last darts just kind of flop out, while the other ones go an acceptable range? If you have time, try putting more darts in one barrel than in the other and see if the one with more doesn't shoot out it's last shots.

I believe I already ansewred this but oh well. Both barrels get the same distance as long as I use stefans. If I use stock darts ony one will fire and thats why I made the single barrel adaptation. The ranges will suck to you but I think they are decent. 20-30 ft. Anyway. I had planned to use it as an assualt weapon anyway. So it won't matter to me. I think I get poor ranges just because the stupid pump I used doesn't work worth a flip. I hope I answered your questions

Looks awesome. Does the trigger work or is it just for decoration?

It's not realmgx anymore. If you go to NHQ, it redirects you to the board the hackers from. He has an announcement on the first page that he's hacked about 4 sites.

Are we at any risk?

I'm fairly sure the exploit only works with php, so Haven should be fine.

All I can say is w00txx0rs.

My Longarm (WIP):
Caliber: Megas or Micros
Propulsion: pump
Max Range: 25ft
Accurate Range: 10ft
Intended Use: losing


Breech Rifle with Silencer:
Caliber: Micros
Propulsion: pump
Max Range: 30ft or 40ft
Accurate Range: 25ft
Intended Use: losing

I'm quite proud of this one. I only wish the ranges were better.

Copy of 3DBBQ's bullpup:
Caliber: Micros
Propulsion: pump
Max Range: ?
Accurate Range: 25ft
Intended Use: test of the design

Looks a bit hard to load, but good job.

Well, if I ever get mine working I'll consider this mod.

I'm trying the same thing.....only altering the design a bit. Maybe we could help each other out.

Dang, I better hurry up. I wanted to finish this on my own, without much outside help. I need to know what kind of spring is used in the magazine, but other than building the magazine and actual assembly of the gun it's self, I'm done. All of the smaller parts are finished. I'm also making mine to look like a XM8 Assault Rifle

I agree, but lets not hijack this thread.

1/2 PVC is for Megas. CPVC fits micros, but personally I have a removeable crayola barrel.

I think I've seen springs like the one you used. I'm probably going to end up using a spring from a giant pez dispenser in mine. Hopefully I'll find something in the future that works, so I can make some extra magazines, I'll let you know if i find anything.

I'll try to get some pictures or mine up soon. It won't be painted or have any balsa wood on it, but you'll at least see where I'm going. The plunger is whats holding me back. I was working on my loser rifle tonight, and it dawned on me that the way I was originally planning to make my plunger wouldn't work. I was going to make it a little different from yours. Your diagram shows a 1/2" SCH 40 PVC Coupling as the plunger , but my couplings don't fit inside of the 1". Are you like really skilled with a dremel or something? Either way, I'll try to get pictures of what I have done up soon.

I must agree again, the G36 is awesome. If the XM8 goes well, it may be a future project. I can't decide which I like better though, the G11 or the G36.

Would they be to strong? I don't know how heavy an actual bullet is, so I don't know. Please excuse my stupidity.

  I especially like the crosshair yu put on there.  What it that off of, or did you make it from scratch?

If you look closely, the crosshair appears to be a small peice of 1/2" PVC with wire in the middle.

Man whatiam, if you decided to try making one before the writeup I hope everythings going ok for you. Today is was one of those days that makes me hate modding and building guns. I'm having to remake the bolt for the 3rd time, I think I made the hole for the case to eject to big, it'll be a miracle if I fit everything in this gun, can't find room for the magazine, and to top everything off: my camera broke, so I can't post ant WIP pics. Ain't life grand

I've never been in an airsoft war, but in nerf an assault rifle is prolly a better idea. I remember reading somewhere that if a gun fires over 150' you can't use it in a nerf war. There's really not much you can do with a loser rifle that only goes 150'.

I just went to his thread, watched the movies, looked at his skematics (sp?), and stared at the WIP pics. Spent about 30 minutes on all of that, then it came to me. It's really not that complicated except for the bolt, and thats only because of the ejector. It's actually a fairly simple design. There is a lot of dremeling required though.

I can't pick just one, so here are my top 5.

Slipknot
Black Sabbath
System of a Down
Megadeth
AC/DC