It wont seem all that expensive? A full kit worth of just the metal would be at least as much as the gun itself, unless they're using some extremely low quality stainless.

What i mean is its not gonna be a 500 dollar kit like explorer

That Joshua Brown/Remedy guy is welcome to come here and make a thread himself, perhaps even detailing the build better (I have some in-progress pictures myself).

Not sure why you're making this fake review puppet storefront for them.

It is in no way fake and I am a little offended that you would accuse me of creating a fake review. He sent me a sled to review and I did a video and written review on it...but if that's not good enough, I can contact him and ask him to do whatever you want because you know, everyone would love to cater to your demands.

EDIT: I apologize for my unnecessary sarcasm and I just saw that you were a mod, however my review isn't fake. I am a promoter for Remedy Metal. I am just doing what he asked me.

In comparison to the other options , Remedy Metals has a rather nice price.

The plan for them eventually is to make a full stainless steel kit. Once that is put together, it really won't seem all that expensive.

I guess one issue I have with your written review is that you state almost no original information about it. Just about everything in it is either something you say the company claims, or advertisement sounding. You don't go into any specifics on how it performs, if it makes a difference, build quality, etc. You don't even post any original images that show that you have the thing. So in the end, I just get the feeling you are saying "Look at this cool thing I found online!".

And I also believe that a all metal longshot would be prohibitively expensive and heavy.

-Kanashimi

I cover all that in my video review and I am working on publishing a firing test. I will try to embed the video review.

EDIT: Just skip that first part, I don't get to the sled until about a minute or 2 in. I would also like some CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. If you have tips to make my reviews better, please let me know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC6juMG_o7I&feature=plcp

Hello Everyone,
A while back there was a nerf haven user that had an idea and vision for an all stainless steel longshot bolt sled. I am here to tell you that this idea has become a product and is doing everything the user said it would do. Here is my official review.




Here it is guys, the very first, hand welded, American made, Stainless Steel Longshot boltsled. I can’t say enough about this product I really can’t. The craftsmanship of this custom made part is unlike anything I have ever seen. Its durability is unmatched, and should something go wrong, it has a life time warranty!

Remedy Metal is a up and coming mod company. Their entire basis will be Stainless steel, not plastic, like Orange Mod Works. Everything that comes out of their shop will be hand made so when you buy this product, you aren’t only supporting the company, but also the artist and his/her work.

The company guarantees that you are able to one hand prime this no matter what spring power you contain in your longshot. That is something no other company has been able to do, not even Xplorer.

For the price of 69.99, this bolt sled is WORTH IT!!!!! Sure you may need to hold off on buying anything else for a while, but with an over powered longshot you don’t really need anything else . Keep in mind however, due to the nature of the boltsled, the power you put into the blaster will start to put stress on the other plastic parts so mod at your own risk as always.

The company sends this information and specific contact information with the product in case you need to contact them. This includes phone number and email which is very classy and shows that they will do their best to NEVER leave a customer hanging.

That concludes the review of the Stainless Steel boltsled from Remedy Metal. I highly recommend it! Also be sure to keep up with Remedy Metal, they are taking one step at a time but their goal is to manufacture an entire Stainless Steel Longshot kit. Thanks again Remedy Metal!

Price should still be a factor in a review though. The problem I have with it is that you want people to shell out ~$80 for something that 99% of LS users are never going to need, without telling them the full story. The labor and craftsmanship may be worth the price on paper, but the value vs alternatives is awful. For that price they could commission an overhaul or homemade of something more useful. Longshots are fun, but there's better stuff out there, especially for the type of wars NH users tend to prefer. Even within the longshot's best gametypes...what a waste of money spending over $100 to pimp one out when campus HvZ can be won with a pair of 8 dollar nitefinders. It provides more of a challenge too, when you can't just spit out darts and have to use speed and strategy.

NH isn't really for advertising "Nerf businesses" either...doesn't the commercialization of this hobby ever bother you at all? It's already expensive enough pumping out darts and driving up and down the eastern seaboard for wars. Selling off my entire arsenal probably wouldn't match the cost of a full kit in metal. One of the things I've noticed in the past couple years is that the NIC has become more and more expensive. This used to be a much cheaper hobby when you could run around with 100 darts and primaries below $30. The businesses really bother me...it's one thing to be selling 3 dollar wyes...but look at what these places are charging for parts and kits...those prices are absurd. All this for fun...

And you said you got the boltsled provided for the review? Did you have to actually pay the 80 bucks to have that thing sent to you? A review where the subject was free and has no downsides is a red flag. If something sounds too good to be true, it probably is, and for that amount of money, you'd better be 100% on top of your game before some poor kids throw away good money for something they aren't likely to need the power of.

Everything you have said makes sense, so from now on I will make these reviews strictly technical and just try to stay as unbiased as possible. Thank you for bringing all of this to my attention as you are making me a better reviewer and blogger. Also if the mods agree with DX and feel that I am advertising, I would completely understand if you were to shut down the thread and add advertising to the CoC. I simply did my research before making the thread and thought i was in my boundaries. However I see where I have over looked some very small but important details, I just wanted to get Remedy Metal out in the open.

That's the part I have a problem with. I called it a fake review because as Kanashimi pointed out, your original post is not a review at all. Look at SGNerf's reviews, or even autonerf's reviews of the OMW Kits. They provide useful information that let us judge the merits of the product, rather than being direct promotion. A review should identify advantages, disadvantages (of design, not price), rather than saying "buy this the money goes to help some dude!"

If you are essentially just posting a sales or advertising thread, then you might as well let the actual manufacturer make it in the trading forum, since he'll also be able to answer questions too.

Edit: The video isn't bad actually, but you should put some of what you say into words.

That last part is the advice I needed. Thank you for the advice Zorn. I will be sure to work on that and try to develop that into my written reviews. I am still new to blogging and written reviews. Just started my own blog a couple days ago.

That thing is beautiful, but...

Inb4 WAYYY TOO EXPENSIVE.

Very true, however there will eventually be a stainless steel longshot kit. Right now they are just going one piece at a time.

On topic: Just to justify a $70 price, you also need to consider all the labor + materials going into this. You're not just paying for the metal, but also whatever hardware and designing time spent on this as well.

About NSE vs. Longshots: Just look at the plunger volume. Whatever you do to your Retaliator, if you do the same to the LongShot, you will be rewarded with far more.

And if you value a blaster just by some form of a Performance/Cost ratio, that's cool by me, but there are so many other aspects that make a blaster valuable and worthy of being owned. For example, you could go out to the store and buy am awkward BBUMB and have fun making dents in walls or you could spend a lot more on a Crossbow, which may not perform as well for even the hefty price, but is "valuable" in other aspects, such as vintage (collector) value, comfort, aesthetics, sentimental value, etc.

Yep, I was reminded of the longshot's power when I installed the new sled...the longshot plunger tube is still ridiculously massive.

Can you plug the tank in a dart tag spiderman blaster? If so can someone direct me to a tutorial and what are the best ranges I could get out of it?

Found it, thanks!

1st I need to remove that orange stopper from the tank, so I can start making a new piston

You can use boiling water to break the seal, and ultimately remove the cap.

I would say so, I dunno, but it just might work! Great idea! (though the rayven jammed 43 times during my last game)

Off topic for a sec: Your rayven jammed because when you went in to mod it (if you did) most likely your fly wheel system got off center with the dart pusher. We had a big problem solution discussion about this on the HVZ forums. Back on topic: It might work, but you have to be careful because most likely you will start to push your dart in while revving even if it doesn't take long to rev up. In addition, it may cause a jam in the flywheel chamber. Sounds like its a multi test project, but it is a good idea.

Well, I can't really modify my N-Strike Recon but, that will be another story. So I thought, "Maybe I should get the Elite Recon." I saw how different the Elite Recon is and after seeing a few videos and reviews, there seems to be somewhat of a positive buzz about it. From all I know so far, the reason I would think is probably because it is a direct plunger system. BUT, I just want to confirm a question : are Elite blasters better than N-Strike blasters? If I see there are a lot of votes toward the Elite blasters, I guess I'll get the Elite Recon, not only if they perform better, but also for the cool foregrip and stock.

Just feedback and opinions. Thank you.

(I put blue next to "Elite blasters" since most of them are blue. Same goes with the "N-Strike blasters.")

From my experience with the elite blasters, I have to conclude that they are a big hit outside the NIC. Since we still have pump snaps and other homemades, they may or may not be reliable in a NIC war. For my purposes however, which includes indoor wars and HVZ, the Retaliator has exceeded my expectations just after a couple basic mods. I will be keeping it as my side arm while I use the pyragon or my modded longshot as my primary. The retaliator is capable of 100' angled ranges which is incredible for what used to be the recon we all hated (or loved depending on the person.) The rampage is capable of 90' ranges thanks to the faux barrel, but still this a raider we are typically talking about. Lastly, this isn't the end of the elite series, this is the beginning. With popular blasters such as the nitefinder, jolt and maybe even an alpha trooper, NERF is changing the concept of foam dart blasters for the better, much better.

Yeah, I have quite a bit of experience with spray paint, I was think more of what kind of paint to use for detailing. Acrylic works good you guys say? Great, I have some lying around.

In addition, if you want to make your paintjobs last as long as possible, be sure to do a layer or 2 of clear coat.

I asked them about it, and they said 6kg springs are too strong for the stock assembly and shattered it. They said the AT has weaker plastic than other blasters. With the massacre kit, 6kg is supposed to be alright.

Yes, however with the 6kg spring, even with reinforcement there have been issues. These included people forcing through the dart tooth, or even broken plunger tubes such as mine. I ordered 3 5kg springs from them and they are replacing my breech and plunger tube. If all goes well, I will have a perfectly working alpha.

UPDATE

Now, all kits will not need as much reinforcing and have the plunger travel increased as standard - solving any problems. Just proves that they listen to our feedback!

Exactly, as a matter of fact, the only reinforcement I have needed is for the priming handle, the rest of the kit works flawlessly, the way it should.

Has anyone's plunger tube shattered? Also prior to that, my Alpha had terrible inconsistencies firing. It was ALWAYS jamming and no matter what i did to try to fix it, it never was able to get fixed. That is when my plunger tube shattered. I am thinking if omw sends me a new kit, I could ask them to send me a 5kg spring, but we will see what happens.

Are you referring to the OMW kits PT breaking or the Stock one... I've heard about stock ones going from time to time... but only rare occasions do I see someone claiming their Massacre PT breaking... but that could simply be a manufacturing flaw on that particular one. And from what I've seem OMW sends replacements for them. So as far as I can tell they stand behind their products.

Well I am that one occasion, My pluger tube broke in half. I don't doubt they would send me another tube. Do you think I could get away with asking for a 5kg spring as well?

Only my stock PT has broken and my massacre PT shows no signs of stress at all.
To test it I have probably fired 600-700 darts through it and there is no visible wear and tear.
Mine is padded with 1/4 inch of foam though to increase plunger travel so it will catch more consistently.

If anyone wants more Hi-res. pics of the kit just say and I will post them. I have access to a photography studio so it'll be easy.

Yes I would love some pics. Padding has made the breech hard to navigate through the dart tooth and various others have reported broken dart tooths. I actually trimmed down the side nose of the breech to stop this, but I just keep running into more and more issues.

You have to cut OMW some slack. They love what they are doing, but its tough for them. I still don't understand how OMW is still in business. I love what they are doing, but I don't think their market is big enough. They sold almost 2000 massacre kits. Lets say they made $30 from each unit, price for each minus the material cost (overestimating). Then how about the prototypes, equipment, stock blasters for testing, darts, building utilities/rent/leasing, lets take away $10,000. Then they want to make some profit to keep for future R&D so they can grow their business. So lets take out another $5,000. That leaves them with $45,000. Split between 10 people, $4,500 a person for working for 5 months, over 40 hours a week. Not including taxes.

Even if you move some of the numbers around, or add in the less popular stage 1 kits, they still aren't getting much. Long story short, don't complain about prices or quality because they are under high stress right now to not go under as a company.

Maybe this isn't the right place to point this out, but I still think people should be aware.

Its because all of the manufacturing is done over seas which is super cheap. Plus with all the orders of the Unleashed kits. Stage 1 and 2 recon, which was a pre order, massacre recon (preorder) massacres (pre order) and the immortal kit (pre order.) The rake in some serious cash. Not to mention all the seperate orders of springs, grease and o rings. I think they get a little more than 4500 every 5 months.

A flaw with the Alpha Trooper?? The gun workes great stock, and the priming rod is not flimsy and prone to breaking. It is the addition of this kit, with its too-powerful spring that is breaking the gun. The Alpha Trooper is not flawed. OMW should make a stronger priming rod that comes with the kit if they are going to sell it with the 6lb spring.

I have seen OMW's posts on the alpha trooper kit, they said it was a tough decision to include the 6kg spring. However because they only tested 1 kit and one alpha, they did not catch any of the problems people have been having. Trust me, if they had included te 5kg spring, hardly anyone would be having any problems. There would be no way for them to consistently create a perfect priming rod strong enough to support the 6kg spring.

And why not? Metal manufacturers sell set-strength rods. OMW could easily buy a bulk order, and shape it themselves. They certainly seem to have the equipment. Or, they could simply sell the kit with the 5lb spring.

I agree with the spring replacement, but because OMW does all the kit creations over sees, by factory, I don't think the factory would submit to forming individual priming rods for the kits. This is just my 2 cents of course.

You could use super glue, or better yet: melt the edges back together. I use a wood-burning tool when I weld plastics. You could also use some all purpose solvent.(avalible at lowes) But the best fix of all; use the stock spring!

Super glue melts plastic.

Yeah dude, did it ever occur to you after the first or second broke that maybe you should stick to jst the stock, there are a ton of ways to get more power out out a gun rather than using a bigger spring.

The omw 2x spring isn't bigger just stronger, but if you are able to cut the most thin layer of epoxy putter you can, it should do and still won't be a really tight fit.

Just a quick update... i've discovered that there are new modders who may not be familiar with the bolt lock removal process for the Elite Rampage (which is similar to the Raider).

So instead of creating a whole new Mod Guide just for the Rampage (since it'll mostly be the same process as modding an Elite Retaliator), i've updated this Mod Guide with the Rampage bolt lock removal procedure:

Look on the left side of the Rampage casing, then remove the 2 machine screws and simply detach the bolt lock assembly.



Yes... the Rampage can still slam-fire even with the bolt lock removed.

You never stated where you get your silicone tips and foam...care to share?

Nerf is going to have a field day with the new blasters being revealed this year. When it comes to Dart Tag, there are a few new releases and there may be more to come. First, the speedswarm (already released) has brought us a mini swarmfire to be a useful sidearm, with modification of course.

The newest blaster that was announced a few years ago is the Snapfire 8. Nerf put some old technology into this new blaster. With an 8 dart revolving barrel, this plaster primes and fires at the same time upon trigger pull. In addition, you can adjust whether you want more range or higher ROF by adjusting a knob on the blaster.

Finally, Nerf has revealed that they are improving the sharp shot. Nothing is known how they have done this, but on the box nerf says it is the farthest flying sharp shot.

EDIT: update for some sick photos from urban taggers.

http://urbantaggers....g-snapfire.html

Hopefully I will get to update this thread with more Dart tag goodness.

Yes, if you need photos, check his signature out. It's a link to his PhotoBucket with over 800 war pics on it, mostly with a really good camera. I imagine you could easily use one of them in the app. Preferably one with a person in a red hat.

http://www.facebook....22035347&type=3

I hope you have access to this, if you don't let me know. But there is about 60 photos to use so it would be a pain in the ass to post them.

Here is some wonderful work by a fellow nerfer that he did for me.



My hvz weapons.

So I've been considering modding my Longshot (duh). I've done some research into it so I don't muck it up the first time, and what I've gotten from it is that you can take out the AR, plug the air release hole, and add more/stronger springs (and have to add padding). Is it possible to just remove the AR and plug the hole with some duct tape without the spring mod, or will I end up breaking my prized loser rifle in the long run?

As a modder, we all have the ability to choose what mods we put into our blasters. That said, you can remove the AR, plug up the hole, and most likely you will not break your longshot. However with the AR removed, I suggest you pad the plunger tube and do a stock block mod. Otherwise you will have a very loud longshot, and it will also put a lot of stress on your tube because it is a direct plunger tube. Now if you are doing that, you might as well do a spring mod, it is not hard and with the padding, you won't have to worry about the issues I mentioned in the previous sentences.

I've found that GITD Darks have the best foam... even stronger denser than Elite..

What are GITD darks?

Hey everyone, I am starting up my school's first HVZ game here in the next week or so, but I have a dilemma that I am sure may have already been dealt with before. How do you keep your darts durable while playing on campus? I have tried straws but they weigh down the dart too much, and don't fly too well. So does anyone have any secrets to keeping darts durable while being stored in a clip?

Unload at the end of a day, reload at the beginning. A day inside a clip isn't going to destroy a dart.

That makes sense to me, thanks.

Thanks for all your help, but now arises another problem. I put the longstrike back together and now whenever i prime it, when I put the it back to the original state it kind of sticks. Is that normal?

No it is not. When I was modding my LSK, I also noticed the same problem. When aligning the shell, you need to do one more thing. Insert your priming bar and pull the sled back just a tiny bit until you notice the shells are completely together without you forcing it down. If it is aligned perfectly you can then start screwing it back together and you will have as smooth priming as you did before opening it.

Good to see you again louie. I'm glad that you had enough time left over after necro-ing a thread with a link to Nrev to hit us up for money too. We should do these little visits more often.

On topic, I encourage everyone to donate to Habitat for Humanity and to volunteer in your local community.

Agreed Langley, Habitat for Humanity is a great way to reach out to your community and do some good .

Possibly the most useful mod you can do. The shotgun grip turns the longshot into a worthy and useful primary for HVZ and wars. I can't wait for OMW version of the shotgun grip.

Dang, seeing this makes me actually want to go out and buy an element. Such a powerful sidearm and worthy of hvz. Is there a way to minimize the element?

I greatly appreciate you including me in this list of possible subjects. I am quite willing to help in any way possible.

Well the first chapter of this biography will be the History of Nerf. What you can do is forward me links to where I can get the full low down on NERF and Lanard. Send all info through PM. I appreciate your willingness to help Draconis.

We all have large dicks. And no girlfriends. Worth mentioning in such a work of literary genius.

speak for yourself, been dating the same girl the past 4 years...but i digress

True, and true.

I'd focus mainly on homemade advances in the past few years, and the evolution of darts over the years. Clips (Hoppers, RSCBs, Inlines, n-strike clips, etc.) should have a chapter/section due to the fact that they completely changed nerfing in the workshop, and on the field.

Homemades will have a seperate section in the bio, don't worry, they are a very important part in the NIC, I know that for sure

Every couple years someone tries to do something along these lines and makes the mistake of writing about things which no one they've spoken to actually experienced. This community has about the shortest memory span of anything I've ever encountered, and it's never really been to its detriment. If you'd ike to alter that, more power to ya'. As a well documented ass, and the only person who has been active for the entirety of the NIC's existance, I'll be more than happy to criticize the end results.

Glad to know I have someone to consult in the process VACC.

I guarantee there are fewer than 3 people in this thread who remember PATRICKS NERF PAGE.

Just one of hundreds of shitty little nerf homepages that nobody's looked at in 10 years.

Here's another.
This is one of my favorites.
#4
#5

And of course YakMan's site, which was one of only a few back then that had decent pictures of guns that were taken with a digital camera and not scanned into the computer or ripped off from other websites. YakMan posted here a year or two back, which makes me wonder how many of these guys still check in once in a while.

It's impossible to write an exhaustive summary of NIC history, but if you're insistent on trying you should include as many of those old sites as possible because they're pretty neat, and a long time ago people actually used them for information and not just as a way to waste some time.

If someone mentions them, I will be sure to include them.

Make sure you include the glorious butt conquests of the LGLF.
Carbon was a major contributor to homemades in the nerfing community, so he deserves a few honorable mentions... and an interview would be cool.

I will need to be informed Righteous. I have only been apart of the NIC myself for a year. Yes, I should include interviews of the ones that have revolutionized the NIC. I have no clue what the LGLF is.

Hey guys, I need something to do in my free time besides Nerf and disc golf, so this is what I want to do. As stupid as this sounds, I want to create a NIC biography. This includes the history of Nerf and details of its competitors, line of blasters etc. The various NIC forums and its creators. The most popular NIC Youtubers, Drac, Uin etc., and some of the most revolutionary modifications involving stock and home made blasters. This isn't going to be a week long, month long or even year long project. This vision I have, is to inform our children's chidren of this wonderful hobby we all love so much. So this is what I need from you, the Nerf haven part of the NIC. I need as much information as possible. If you have any important and relative information to any of the topics, or feel I should add a "chapter" please do so. I will be spreading this to all of the major forums, (Nerfhaven, Nerf HQ, the HVZ forums) and including them as well. If you want to be apart of this, I need information from you. I want this as well written as possible, and I can't do it without your help. Thank you ahead for your cooperation and support.

When this biography is complete, it will be printed out and sent to all major influences in the NIC for approval, and I will take all feedback and revisions and finalize them to be published to every forum and printed for every nerfer to keep. This is going to be big guys and will hopefully be remembered for generations. Keep that in mind as we travel this journey together.