I have been saving my first post for a good mod but instead it appears I have to waste it on a question which will probably get me made fun of. Oh well. So I have taken a liking to the National Geographic Roto Rocket as something to have some fun with and am going to get one off of Amazon. However when I was looking around I noticed that there is another brand called Uncle Milton that makes what looks like the same gun. The descriptions are slightly different but they seem to be the same. The Uncle Milton one is 6 dollars cheaper and you can get free shipping (which the big salvo has also and I have been looking for an excuse to buy one of those) but I don't want to waste time and money on something that is junk. So I ask you all...is there a difference that anyone knows of?

National Geographic Roto Rocket
http://www.amazon.co...09537233&sr=1-2

Uncle Milton Roto Rocket
http://www.amazon.co...09537233&sr=1-1

Thank you in advance everyone!

Yes Baghead you are a dork but I respect both you and Hong Kong Phooey so I have no complaints. The pictures of yours were actually what got me interested in the gun in the first place.

Now I guess we just have to have a race to see who gets a mod for it up first. But since you have one completed and I have 2 weeks of finals and papers to do I believe that you might beat me.

Attaching the belts together is going to change the face of Humans vs. Zombies forever.

That being said it looks awesome Splitlip and thank you for your hard work taking it apart! I know everyone thanks you.

Good Work! Simple (and cheap) idea that would be really useful if your shell broke for some strange reason as well as for an integration into something.

I wish I could help you on the photos but I have no idea.

P.S. Welcome to the haven!

Someone really needs to post a video of it firing along a tape measure stretched out. That way it would kill the speculation. I really don't care if it is stock or not just so long as it is real. Also before one of you with a vulcan yells at me to do it myself just know that I would if I wasn't stuck down in the Missouri Ozarks doing research with the closest Wal-Mart a freaking hour away.

I'm trying to say stick the pump on so that it doesn't fall off when you're pumping. How thick can you be?

I believe he is just saying that it is merely to keep the pump in when moving around. Yes the tape would come off easily if he pulled back too far but if it works for him then whatever. No sense in brow beating him.

Nice Find! My scumbag of a roommate already signed up for it and yet failed to tell me about it. Lame!

I have to agree that it is interesting. I personally don't like it but you put time and effort into so I can't really knock you for doing something novel. However it seems like some of the gator parts would break off fairly easily.

Good mod although I am a little confused by the point of putting airsoft bbs down the barrel like you did during your video (I did have the sound off though so you might have explained the usefulness of that and I didn't hear it).

I like the idea of the handled breech and personally if I was going to cpvc my longshot I would almost rather do this then worry about the boltshel breaking.

I do have to agree with some people in that there has to be a better way of setting up the breech so that the handle doesn't snap. However until someone does it, your way is very good.

An internal picture would help us figure out what is wrong but g-force is probably right.

I go to school at Truman State in Kirksville and I might be able to get some guys together for a missouri war but I don't know about road tripping all the way to the Chicago region. Mainly because we are very poor and busy college students and most of my friends are into the HvZ scene and not actual nerf wars. However there is always hope.

This marks my first posted mod and while it is nothing fancy I don't believe it has been done before. Stock the quickstrike sucked balls hardcore. In my opinion this is mainly the fault of its horrible arrow ammo which only flies straight for about 3 inches then veers off course. However without any further delay, here is the mod.

Materials Needed:
Quickstrike
Cpvc
Dremel or sawing instrument
Hot glue gun
Pipe cutter

Step 1: Take your unmodded quickstrike.


Step 2: Using a dremel or any other sawing instrument cut the barrels off flush with the purple pieces. Then take a knife and clean out the barrels of plastic pieces (I actually cut the barrels shorter after this picture but was too lazy to take another).


Step 3: Using your pipe cutter cut two pieces of cpvc to about 3 inches long and set aside for a second. Take your glue gun and slather the purple parts of the barrels in hot glue.


Step 4: Take the cpvc and force it over the purple part of the barrel. The fit will be snug but it will go on with a little force. Finally you have have your finished product.


Ranges: About 35-40 feet using streamlines with hot glue filled tips. I couldn't take actual measurements because my toolbox got left back at home.

Final remarks: I actually like this little gun. The whole mod take like 10 minutes and it a fun little surprise to ambush my friends with. It could be redone using plumbers goop instead of hot glue but the cpvc is such a snug fit over the barrel I do not believe it is essential.

Praise? Flames?

Does it have a trigger or do you just pull it back and let go?

You just pull it back and let it go which hurts its accuracy.

Man, talk about an obscure blaster! It's like a tiny Double Crossbow!


Question: What happened to the handle? Do you still have it?

It is basically a tiny double crossbow and no I don't still have the handle. It was just a molded little piece of black plastic that was far too small for my hands so I threw it away.

On a happier note I added some mini-bungees to it and it greatly improved the range!

I no longer have a longshot to slap it onto but I might try and put it onto another gun.

2 bungees increased the range somewhere around to about 50 feet.
3 bungees increased the range to probably about 60.
Of course neither of those ranges are official since my tape measure is currently an hour and a half away but my fiance has a small one I might try and use. If I can get reliable measurements I will post them.

The only problem I have with the bungees is that it makes the gun a little hard to pull back because of the small size of the gun with such a high resistance.

I think you should go all out on this thing. Spring replacement, seal improvement, goop up those purple caps, coupler it with some nested petg or brass. 60 feet already, you could make this tiny thing a frickin primary!

Haha I like your spirit Splitlip! The seal with the hot glue and purple pieces is actually 100% tight but if I was to ever use it for a while I would take it apart and use goop so it would hold up to abuse better.I might try and do some nested brass barrels when I get really bored (too many other projects on the side) and besides with three bungees on it the accuracy goes down some. Also remember that those ranges are just eyeballed and I hope to make official ones soon so I really hope no one tries to call me out on them.

Maybe I will carry on in your tradition and make a part 2 to this mod but I wouldn't hold my breath for it.

i never said it fit fifty in the box i said it will make a mod for the box and when u curve the tip it work perfect so shut the fuck up and other wise i had enough of these fuck ing idiots ruining anything they can just so they think they are better than us so shut the fuck up u piece of shit.

Wait, hold up. So you basically just cut a hole in the existing ammo box so the last 25 links in the 50 round belt would hang out? That's not making a box that holds 50 darts, that's cutting a hole in the existing box and allowing it to HOLD 25 rounds inside, plus 25 rounds outside. While it seems to work ok sitting on your bench I doubt it would work that well if you were just running around shooting it. Of course guys like SPU-Nerf have done better 50 round mods that would actually work. I.e. in SPU's mod (http://nerfhaven.com...12615&hl=Vulcan) not only does the box actually hold 50 rounds, but he implemented a system of catching the belts as they move out of the right side of the gun. You need to implement some sort of belt catching system (assuming you use the Vulcan standing up) to prevent the mechanism from jamming under the weight of the partially spent belt. And having a loose belt hanging out kind of defeats the purpose of having the box in the first place, although I guess it's better to have 25 links hanging out then 50 links.

On another note fix the capitalization and grammar.

Finally, I've had enough of all the kids on the fucking Youtube. New rule. Only Forsaken Angel and those who don't show their face, don't speak, or are generally awesome may make videos. Otherwise please, PLEASE just stick to doing write ups. If you don't think a write up is worth the trouble then chances are the mod isn't worth the trouble either. I for one like to see a short video that compliments a good writeup, not a meh video and no writeup.

-Ta10n

Wait a second. In your first post you say that the mod is to make a box that can hold fifty darts and then you throw a fit when someone calls you on it. Also your spelling and grammar makes me want to cry so please stop with all the cursing and post like you have an IQ. I know that might be hard for you but please try...mkay.

I got my Eagle on June 27, 2003 along with a bronze and silver palm. Like Captain Slug I kind of got screwed out of my last palm. If my life wasn't so busy with college I would really like to volunteer with a troop but oh well.

This is well attempted, but nonetheless a shitty write-up. You need pictures to start, be a little more descriptive (you know, past "the big stick thing"), and this has been done and written up more times then days you've been here. Don't take it personally, but a write-up isn't a write-up without pictures.

hey tnks for the constructive critisism(im not being sarcastic). um im new here so can you plz help me on how to post pictures because i have a ton of them

First of all if you don't want to be reamed by an admin then clean up your spelling and grammar.

As for the photos just use a free site like photobucket (there are a few other ones but this is the one I use) to host your pictures. Then it is just a simple matter of hot-linking them to the write-up.

Each site does this a little different but on photobucket when you are viewing one of your pictures there will be three or four little urls in the lower right hand side. You need to copy the one that says "host on a forum" or something like that.

I hope this helps!

Damn. Norther beat me to it!

Are you using the one that says "HTML Code - Websites & Blogs"?

If so it should just be a matter of copy and paste.

As lame as it is I am going to have to say FF7. When the game clock stopped counting I knew I had a problem.

Although I would have to say the God of War series is a favorite too for working off stress (gotta love the throw a.k.a. fuck you button)

I love it!!! True it is a little ugly but if something is functional then screw how it looks. Enjoy your new monster Norther!

So I was really bored and decided to try and find a new source of brass online. The good news is that I think I did manage to find one although I have not tried to order anything off of it yet.

http://www.idealtrue...es?sfs=54d02b1a

It is not as nice as Mcmaster Carr but they do seem to carry several sizes of brass. The price with shipping is a little high if you are just ordering a few feet but if you wanted to buy a large amount of it (let's face it I know I would use a large amount of it) then it not so bad.

Just thought I would share what I found and perhaps someone else can tells us if this company is reputable or not.

That rules, finally a decent use for something from Hot Topic.

What are you talking about, I love Hot Topic! I get half of my clothes from there.

Really? Weird. Most of the stuff I've seen there has sleeves.

On topic:

I was actually going to make something similar, using leather. Make giant watches too.

You guys are assholes making fun of ice. Just shut the FUCKING ASS up about the sleeve thing, he doesn't even do it anymore.

I love it when people type curse words in all caps because they think they mean more that way. Last time I checked I believe that you are allowed to make fun of people, something about the right to free speech and all that jazz. Of course perhaps I am just jaded because I really don't like Ice's videos but then again I don't believe he ever forced me to watch them. Therefore he can keep doing what he does and the rest of us will probably keep making fun of him but that is life.

Well I guess it is time to throw my hat into the ring. As an HvZ veteran and nut I have long pondered this question. Here is my rundown of good weapons for the game.

Maverick: The classic dual-wielding maverick approach has served many of my comrades well but the maverick jams like a bitch and that in itself has killed more humans than humans have stunned zombies. A close friend of mine rebarreled his with cpvc and it works quite well and he always lives a long time. Of course he is one of the best players I have ever seen and that might have more to do with it.

dtb: Yes, yes, yes is all I can say. This gun loaded with taggers plays a huge mind game with the zombies and turns many single zombies away without a conflict. Also since the front is exposed it is easy for the reloading.

Firefly: This was my primary last year and it rocked when I removed the ars. The main benefit with this gun isn't its rof or its ammo capacity it is that minus the ars it never jams. That saved my skin many a time last game.

Longshot: Due to its great size and mediocre ranges unless you heavily mod it (which might make it illegal) this gun is one of my least favorites for the game. It does intimate zombies well but unless you have lots of clips you will be screwed.

Recon: I actually like this gun more than the longshot because with a spring addition in the stock and ars removed this is quite the little gun. One member of my squad carries one along with 5 extra magazines, shoots modified streamlines and kicks ass with it.

Ratchetblast: My squad leader got one of these and seems to like it. It hasn't been zombie tested yet so that is still open.

Magstrike: Personally the clip system is only nice when you have extras and the number of pumps makes it less useful but with modifications it is pretty nice.

Rf20: My personal machine gun of choice and it works wonders. It can't take the abuse that the magstrike can but when it is fully loaded and turned on a zombie they run for the hills. Besides it is easy to reload one or two shots and keep going.

Vulcan: We tested a stock one with a 25 shot belt and the person carrying it managed to take out 11 zombies before dying. However given how large, fragile, and expensive it is I would stick with a different machine gun but it is fun to shoot just not that practical.

Mp-150: That's right I said the motorized ballzooka! Sure it is big and bulky and everyone on here hates it a lot but that is because no one has ever used it in a zombie game. The sound of that thing reving up scatters zombies and when you pop one in the head the rest get the message. So it is a worthless gun that excels at playing mind games.

Nightfinder/ techtarget: If you can hit thing consistently with these then you will piss off a lot of zombies before they can get you. Just make sure you can hit them.

scout/crossfire: Great for stashing in a pocket or clipping onto a gun.

I sure there are others that I am not thinking of but if they come to me I will let you know. The main thing to remember with HvZ is that if you can run from a conflict or avoid it by being stealthy then do it. As for long range guns like the bbb or something yeah they are fun to shoot but chances are you will not live very long using one of those unless you are very, very fast. The zombie that gets you is the one you never see. Stay light and mobile and you will live long and prosper.

You know in all fairness if you are taking 60 ft shots at zombies then you are just walking zombie food. Most encounters with zombies take place at the 0-30 feet range. Any farther away than that and you should probably just try not to get noticed or run someplace.

P.S. Just for the record running away from zombies does not make me any less of a man. Which is good because I do it a lot but between two 8-day long games I have spent a grand total of four hours as a zombie so I must be doing something right.

Well that was a quote. took a second look at it and just noticed.. oh well.


For the running thing. Do you do missions when you place HvZ? some of ours require defending points, taking points, and other random tasks we must complete while under zombie attack, so the range is always nice to have in case you need it. Just saying, though I'm not at all opposed to running.

Yeah we started having both human and zombie missions and yes some of them require defending points. In that case get behind some cover and get with some people you can trust. I have found that if you try and shoot too far away good zombies will just dodge until you run out of ammo. However range is nice if you just want to lob shots into a horde but then again the running is best unless you are on a mission then see above notes.

This might not fit the discussion but it is named "through a cops eyes". In the past two years I have sent out nerf packages ( 10-20 guns and a bunch of ammo ) to a doz. or so police dept. around the country. Seems like the same as with everyone else shooting the foam helps reduce the everyday stress in a cops life. I've even sent packages to Langley on occasion. Just thought I'd mention it, all types and ages do the nerf thing.
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Forgive my confusion... why do you do this?

Why all around the country?

Also, do you mean Langley as in the NH member or as in the CIA?

I think he means that police departments have bought his guns for fun around work.

The gun looks nice and all as others have said. I am just wondering why you bothered to post this before you actually did the write up. The other way around seems more logical to me (of course the pics would show the gun fully painted instead of just the base coat).

Have you ever considered just removing the external springs all together? I know that would hurt ranges some and decrease the badass factor but if it is not working that well I would rather have a gun that worked well but didn't shoot as far. Besides one of the things that always intrigued me about this gun is how quiet they are supposed to be. I am sure the springs make it noisier. To me I could see you causing a great deal of havok with a rapid fire basically silent gun. If you were firing from cover you would be hard to pinpoint which would go along with my personal style of sneaking well. But different strokes for different folks.

P.S. Sorry this is not a useful suggestion but for what it matters I really like it and commend you on your hard work.

All I can say about this game is that as a biologist the way "evolution" is portrayed is horrible. It is actually a better model for intelligent design.

I had an application to create a Nerf society under my university student union, but yesterday I was emailed by the University administration denying my application, and there would be no appeal opportunities .I was instructed not to attempt a new application for a club which engaged in any activity which involved "Nerf". I gave the board a call too and they said they were instructed not to discuss the matter and I would risk an incident of student misconduct if I pursued the matter. After that Finnish shooting I don't see Nerf surviving anywhere near a college of university, best not to Nerf on campus. Talk to your SRC too, I'm not sure of your school conduct policies but what the university is doing could have legal implications.

Hmmm seems like a lot of people are having a hard time getting there admins to go along with the whole nerf thing. I guess we are pretty lucky at Truman, the moderator for our HvZ games is on the board of governors so we are left alone. However Mocky I would go through the student handbook at your school and see what the rules are on toys on campus. I know some schools have it stated in their handbooks that toys resembling guns are not allowed on campus. If it is not that in there I would bug the hell out of that board. Are they really going to reprimand you for exercising your freedom of speech? If so then they are nothing more than fascists and I would call them that. Sorry for the rant but it just makes me mad that universities which are supposed to be the most liberal places in America keep cutting down on the basic rights of people turning them into mindless slaves. If they quote all the school shootings then tell them how much of a stress reliever and friendship building exercise the club is. Once again sorry for the rants I just hate this kind of thing.

Looks nice. A friend of mine did this and also integrated a sspb vertically into it. I like the green paintjob though I am not wild about the black lines on the handle because they kind of looked like they were drawn on by a sharpie.

Can we please take care of Killakit Old Yeller style or just ban the little bastard. I have never seen so many necros in such a short amount of time.

I'll admit that place looks awesome but you really, really, really, should look at getting permission to play there. All it takes is one person to call the cops to put you in a lot of trouble with the owners. That being said I don't think they would let you all nerf there for insurance reasons and so stuff won't get broken. However they might let you all come in during the afternoon while there is nothing going on and nerf but perhaps that is just wishful thinking.

Either way I am jealous since I am in Missouri and that place looks hella warm.

Wow! In my mind I have never compared the two but now that you bring it up... I have no clue. That is a close one. I have a Pump Action Shotgun but not a crossbow. I am really going to take this into consideration.

What the hell are you taking into consideration?

I don't know about you but I wish they would release some guns with that red paintjob like the recon and vulcan have in the picture. Personally I think a longshot would look amazing in that scheme.

Nice job. How is the seal?

I get them at the Haistings here in Kirksville which I discovered by accident.

Here at truman we are up to over 200 people and the game starts on the 22nd.