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#82355 A.b.p

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 26 May 2006 - 05:11 AM in Homemades

It depends on your application:

If you've got high pressure, then you need low volume.

If you've got low pressure, then you need high volume.

For a nerf dart, the high pressure low volume tends to work well, where as with a cannon, low pressure high volume works well.

As far as actual psi... I have no idea. In writing this, I realized I probabaly wasn't any help. Sorry for that?

#59764 Titan Mod

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 20 July 2005 - 04:30 PM in Modifications

Sorry that this is such an old topic, but I had an idea.

I don't own a titan.

Has anyone tried taking a double-stroke, high output pump like those found in the bike departments of stores and using it to replace the titan stock pump? It seems like the main drawback to that monster is the slow rof due to pumping, and if that could be accelerated, then I think it would be beneficial.

Shitake, with the size of that thing, you might even be able to just stick a huge tire pump on there!


#80524 Angels Bbb

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 21 April 2006 - 02:58 AM in Modifications

Added to the directory...


[Sorry for the late post]

#77996 Split-tech 2k

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 29 March 2006 - 12:18 AM in Modifications


Do you consider this an AT2K integration (at2k into another gun)? I do, and when the second part is done, I'll post them both in the directory under Spitfire integrations. What do you think about that?


#69746 Open Letter To New Members And Admins

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 23 December 2005 - 03:15 AM in General Nerf

Perhaps I should add a section to the mods directory about how to mod your noob? Like: use l33t spellings to increase the range of your flame!

And I'm kidding.

Here's my experience with this forum: it's like the early stages of a relationship, when you're still trying to figure out the other person, and mainly get them in bed. You don't want to say anything that will anger the other person, not because you don't want to upset them, but because then you won't get laid.

I remember my first post, back in the day... oh wait, it wasn't that long ago. The point is that I was overly-worried about pakeeeving people off. I always like to enter into relationships standing tall with open arms, but entering this one was more like a crawl with my fists protecting my face.

In the end, did it work? Well, we're still in the shower... up for a threesome?

About other forums in comparison to this one... Has anyone here ever been to a website where the navigation bar is on the RIGHT (the direction) side of the screen as opposed to the left? When that happens to me (whether it be because of a different language or whatever), I still stare at the left side of the page for a second, wondering what to do. Most of us are so used to a left-side nav bar because that's the way it's usually done. I think this idea can be equated to some of the new-folk practices, like reviving old topics. Maybe they walk into rooms a week later and finish off concluded conversations!

Just imagine that. It would be hilarious to see someone actually walk into a room, a few weeks later, and pick up where the conversation stopped.

I'd say the CoC is pretty ironclad and clear. Maybe rather than flame, a pm would do the trick. If they still didn't comply, then ban. And of course, the pm would have to be sent by a mod, and only by a mod.


#57306 At2k Shotgun

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 11 June 2005 - 11:49 PM in Modifications

Looks pretty cool...

Although I'm not familiar with the at2k, is there a way to keep the handle/trigger assembly, rather than tossing it aside?

But that thing must be pretty powerful to be able to launch three darts that far...

#60146 Far Revisited

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 25 July 2005 - 03:33 AM in Homemades

Those are some very nice CADs... the first shot reminds me of the cheap digitized photos of babes that are displayed on video poker machines in bars... the difference being there aren't any pretty ladies...


#69055 Self-propelled Arrows/missles?

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 11 December 2005 - 07:54 PM in Homemades

I would bet, that if you could hollow out the front of a titan missile (know that I've never seen one of these...), then you would have enough room for a small balloon. You could then blow up the balloon inside of the rocket, then use kite string and wrap it around the neck of the balloon. As long as it was wound tightly enough and with enough revolutions, it would seal it off... as long as there wasn't too much jostling.

Then you could just tie the other end of the string to the launcher, and maybe when you shot the missile, the string would unravel.

But... it seems to me, that at this point, if you want a rocket to go farther than it does... you should just build an air cannon and make a special projectile that has a ton of foam padding. The projectiles from here:

Finned Darts

Those might give some inspiration. But NEVER shoot those at someone... but maybe some ideas can be gleaned.

If I were making a foam missile, I'd probably just use 1/2 CPVC as a stem, wrap FBR around it, then buy some foam from a craft store (or head to the UPS store for packing foam) and shape it into a "head" (this would need to be as wide as the fins). Then, make the fins out of some plastic material (like the binder on the web site above), wrap the leading edges of the fins in bubble wrap or something, then fire that baby out of a 2" PVC barrel.

Boom. Missile.

But... isn't that not nerf? Is it necessary to shoot a huge projectile at someone from 200 yards away?


#69421 Self-propelled Arrows/missles?

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 18 December 2005 - 04:17 AM in Homemades


After reading where this topic turned after a few days, I wanted to say something. So here goes. What follows is my opinion.

Nerf is Nerf. Part of the reason that I believe this community to be so strong is the ingenuity and constant influx of ideas. I understand that this topic might not "Be Nerf", but it still allows people to flex their brain, and that flex might be the next great idea for nerf. So I don't think there is any reason to quelch this topic, provided that it doesn't become human torch-esque. But I suppose it is.

Yeah, the homemades section is for things that people have built, but it's also for discussing ideas, concepts, and general thoughts. This IS a forum, the main medium is the written word combined with input from the masses.

Bottom line: why do people get so angry? Are people's lives that devoid that these forums are the only control they can exert over others to fulfill their own desires? "I'd like to teach the world to sing, in perfect harmony...."

What the freak. I don't mean to be confrontational, rather I just wanted to let those things out.

Oh, and Falcon, that balloon idea of mine was for the balloon to be inside of the missile, so there would not be any drag, other than the rocket itself. I was later told by a friend (since I've never seen a titan missile) that it probably wouldn't work since I was thinking of the launching system as a larger version of the old Bow and Arrow, and apparently the titan system is much different. Oh well.

Not everybody is in a place where they can build something, so speculation may be their only option. Like me. I'm in my apartment. I don't build things here. Oh darn.


#69492 Self-propelled Arrows/missles?

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 18 December 2005 - 09:33 PM in Homemades


I understand what you're saying about the forum being clogged with ideas with little results. My only complaint, is that I think there may be some valid ideas in this, so I don't think they should be destroyed. Maybe there should just be a different section for talk like this. Something like an "Idle Speculation/Theoretical Nonsense" channel or something. Somewhere where people can just throw an idea out there, regardless of how non-nerf it is... I know there's the unrelated channel, but my experience with it has been that people talk about completely non-nerf things.

Oh well.

By the way, I should have been more clear. I wasn't really talking about you when I made the bottom line comment. I was more talking about how easily people get angry on forums (not just these), and my questions about why that happens.


#60770 Super Soaker Nerf

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 01 August 2005 - 07:00 AM in Modifications

Heres a crappy MS paint drawing of what it looks like on the inside...

I'm impressed by that. Is there a reason I shouldn't be?

#82294 Nerf War/assassins On Fox9

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 24 May 2006 - 03:42 PM in General Nerf

Modifications are another whole can of worms...

I enjoyed this. It really made me laugh to see that news broadcasters are dorky and fake where ever you go.

I forgot what I was going to add to this...

Oh right. Are you guys calling the war-type game assassins, or just the actual assassins-type game, where everyone is in the stealth mode in everyday life? There were definitely a few moments in that broadcast where confusion between the terms was apparent.

Hokay. I definitely need to get an assassins game going with my co-workers.


#58620 Maverick

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 03 July 2005 - 08:47 AM in Modifications

Has anyone tried sacrificing three barrels; hacking off the blue connection around the original orange barrel tip, opening the top for longer barrels, and making only three extended brass/PVC barrels so that it can still rotate around part of the way.  I am assuming the turret can rotate both directions, and turns clockwise automatically.  Three shots would be fineif everything else worked well.

I don't think I understand what you hope to accomplish by taking out three barrels. The main problems with the mav in my opinion, are that the seal between the plunger and turret is bad, and that the turret rotates on the trigger pull and not the cock. I tried drilling the air restrictors, I tried changing out the barrels with cpvc. Getting that turret to fit perfectly once it has been taken apart is so difficult that I've declared my mods unsuccessful. And by my mods, I mean other people's mods that I tried. With the cpvc, sometimes, when the plunger is PERFECTLY pressed up against the turret, the dart goes a flying... but most of the time, the dart makes it halfway out of the barrel and jams my gun.

I think having just three barrels would only increase the lack of seal (damn dirty double negatives!).

The only thing I would do to a mav if a bought another one would be to allow the turret to swing farther out. Because that rocks. (!)

Anywho, this has all been said before, but seriously. I don't want to believe it. The mav looks and seems so cool! I just don't want the above to be true.... too bad.


#74776 An In-line, High Capacity Clip

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 01 March 2006 - 02:59 AM in Homemades

I was just wondering what mechanism you used for your trigger? That's the part that always stumps me when dealing with homemades.

Also, your plunger looks really heavy with the handle on the end of it... is it, or am I being deceived?

Great work though, it looks super solid and quite simple when compared to other clips and loading mechanisms!


#61833 The Better Nerf Grenade

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 13 August 2005 - 01:02 AM in Homemades

Haha! [above]

For the sake of doing this, haven't any of you used a film canister to make a rocket? All you do is put some vineager into the film canister, dump in a little bit of baking soda, put the cap on, and place the canister upside-down on the concrete. It goes at least 20 ft in the air. A long time ago, some friends and I had a blast with this.

So yes, there is enough explosive force from the reaction to make foam fly.


#60111 Barrel Clip

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 24 July 2005 - 06:39 PM in Modifications

It snaped in-half during the war. Lol

Well.. then I guess it didn't work very well, did it?

[Not meant to be offensive!]

Gun in half is a similar problem I am encountering while making my own homemade.


And I sure hope this clip deal turns out to be amazing, because it LOOKS amazing!


#68667 Good Valves

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 01 December 2005 - 06:53 PM in Homemades

I definitely agree with the launching of vegetables...

The only reason I've tried using solinoids and such for nerf is because I hate building custom parts, and thus far, I haven't found an easily adaptable valve that can be used for a variety of applications (with the exception of the at2k). The at2k valve is still unwieldy though...

Lately, I've been trying to pack as much power into the smallest possible shell.... to no avail.

#78564 Extending Barrel Tip

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 03 April 2006 - 10:33 AM in Modifications

I don't have access to my usual tools right now, or else I'd try this...

I was wondering though, ShadowS said that this stuff sticks to CPVC or PVC when you try to make a dart out of it. Well, what if you lube up your tube with either some grease, olive oil, vegetable oil, pam, wd-40, ANYTHING like that. Or, if you rolled some wax paper into the pipe, then sprayed it, it seems like the paper might come off pretty easily.

As to it being more porous than FBR... I think the point here is that you wouldn't need to worry about straightening it. That's usually the problem with my Stefans, since I'm too lazy to do something about it (although I usually straighten them by leaving them in barrel pipes).

Still though, any takers? I'm pretty fired up about this... but I don't have time/materials to try it out (being in my apartment).


#83210 Co2 Nf

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 13 June 2006 - 03:12 PM in Homemades

If you really want a co2 powered nerf gun, go buy a paintball gun by Brass Eagle called "Ghost" or "Blade02". They're the cheapest possible (for a paintball gun). Stick a mega stefan down the barrel, and pull the trigger. Done. Seriously. You don't need to add any sort of barrel, it fits already. If you want, you can cut off a bunch of plastic from the thing and mess around with a breech. About 40 shots at the most per cartridge. I did it with a ghost, before turning into a co2 airsoft gun (which, by the way, is a waste of money. You could kill somebody with that gun). For Nerf though, you need to make extrememly strong stefans, and replace them often. The gun becomes so powerful that the wear and tear on stefans is much higher than on a nerf blaster.

AND.. Yakkman did this same thing to a Blade02 gun back in the day, although I believe he modified it to shoot micros.

#82945 Co2 Nf

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 07 June 2006 - 09:19 PM in Homemades

Anyways, umm... would it be a smarter way to go with a craola barrel then PVC pipe? I mean I know fast decompresion makes it cold (isn't that how they make Nitrogyen?) and might make it explode... But how many times would I be safe to do this without it doing so?

As long as the PVC isn't under pressure, you're fine. By pressure, I mean compressed air in a tank made of PVC. If you're just using pvc/cpvc to make a barrel/breech system, then you shouldn't need to worry about the cold. The PVC will hold for more than enough time for the pressure to be released by the dart exiting the barrel.

#68658 Good Valves

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 01 December 2005 - 05:07 PM in Homemades

I can't remember if I used a 1" or 3/4" sprinkler... I've seen both tapped for a blowgun, so I don't see why you should have any problems.

I'm REALLY interested in your results... and how you made that 1" homemade valve... do you have any pictures?

#68649 Good Valves

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 30 November 2005 - 11:29 PM in Homemades

I realize I'm joining in the conversation late... BUT!

Last summer I built a "nerf" gun using PVC and a blow-gun-modded sprinkler valve. It's only half done... but it does shoot 1/2" stefans with ridiculous accuracy. But it takes about 5 pumps of a bike pump to get there. Everyone is going to hate me for this... but it's basically an s-rifle without the niper.

It's at my house in a-town, but I'll see if I can get my brother to take some pics or something.

Anyway, the point of all this is to say that: ball valves = slow and innaccurate due to the amount of force required to open it (your whole arm must move), where as sprinkler valves = awesome fastness, but nearly impractical for nerf due to size.

If I had made my air chamber smaller, then this gun would have kicked awesome bootang... but I didn't, and now it kicks bootang, but not nerf. Only larger things. Like marbles.

And Mr. bowie, the piston valves... have you ever tried shrinking one without making a whole lot of custom parts? This isn't meant to be sarcastic or anything, I'm just wondering. So far, I've had troubles, both due to size AND the "seal-off" pressure crutial to getting the thing to close.

Ok. I'll try and get pics up at some point...


#58662 Air Compressors In Nerf

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 04 July 2005 - 06:39 AM in Modifications

Well, I think that no link = shitake mushrooms. At least you tried!

#58630 Air Compressors In Nerf

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 03 July 2005 - 03:53 PM in Modifications

What about that new compressor from Canadian Tire. It "Says" it can inflate an air matress in under 2 min. It only costs 30$ and comes with 2 compressors and a docking station to re-charge it?

Blink, is there a link you could provide?

#58621 Air Compressors In Nerf

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 03 July 2005 - 08:53 AM in Modifications

About those air mattress compressors...

I believe that a typical air mattress holds at max 10 psi (probably closer to 4-6). A PVC airtank would need anywhere from 50-120 psi in order to make a pc cycle. I realize that these are just guesses, but nerf darts seem to like high pressure low volume tanks, since the darts have little mass.

So I don't think that a matress compressor would be powerful enough... but that would be nice!


*EDIT* Schveet idea devious!

#58406 Air Compressors In Nerf

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 28 June 2005 - 07:25 PM in Modifications

If you want a battery powered air compressor, the Campbell Hausfeld should do fine. I own one that I use for my air cannons. While it is slower than my plug in, it is really handy for when an outlet is not readily available.

I also think that a schrader valve would do a pc wonders. You could pump, or use an air tank/compressor. OR, even connect two pumps for SUPER DOUBLE MEGATON PUMPING ACTION!

And, if you would like some help, quasar, with some sort of tank, let me know... I'm pretty good with compressed air.


#68656 Organizational Idea

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 01 December 2005 - 04:55 PM in Modifications

So you're saying, rather than make a pin or sticky, we just use the current Nerf World page and update that? Or are you saying make a pin and use his info?

I suppose that either way, I should contact Grinch and see what he thinks.

Did I understand your idea correctly?

#68463 Organizational Idea

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 27 November 2005 - 02:54 PM in Modifications

I thought of it more as averageJoe posts a new mod... then, whoever's in charge of the pinned mod thread (whether that be the mods or a specific user, like me) would just put a link in the pinned thread to the new post of the mod.

And for categories, I assumed they would just be names of the guns... for example:

-----Nitefinder/Nitefinder EX3-----
1) Link to some brass barreled nf
2) Link to some uranium-powered nf...
3) Another link

1) Link to some awesome crossbow
2) Link to some crossbow that looks like a real gun...
3) Another link

And so on. The only problem I can see is with integrations. Either a separate category, or just put it in whatever gun's category the main gun goes in (so, an nf with one of those derringer things integrated into it would go in the nf category).

#68461 Organizational Idea

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 27 November 2005 - 02:35 PM in Modifications

First off, I realize I'm not a highly active member of these forums as far as posting goes, but I do regularly read them.... ok.

I've noticed that a lot of the posts are from first timers, asking about a mod for a specific gun and such, and that most users post some slightly angry message about Searching, and then someone usually posts a link.

So, what if there were either one huge pin or multiple pins for each gun that just had lists of links of all the write-ups people have posted? I've seen these types of consolidation posts on numerous other websites, and they really help me out, and I would imagine they would help anyone else out... especially if they're new to the site. We could even perhaps post stats on the mods, such as a "success" rating or ranges (if we could dig ourselves out of the BS)!

There have been numerous times I've searched for something, and I get a thousand threads, when all I want is to see the myriad ideas people are having.

You might be thinking, "What about the modifications page on this site?" And to that I say: those are very well done write-ups, but I think the cool thing about this site is how dynamic the forums are due to the collaboration of all the great minds we have here! Basically, it seems that the mods page, while it has great write-ups, does not display the full potential of the modding minds out there due to its static (as in not constantly updated) position...

Ok folks, just to make this clear: I'm not criticizing ANYTHING, just telling y'all about this idea I had while looking around. What do you think?

Oh... and I volunteer to make/maintain it if no one wants to do it but thinks it's a good idea.


***EDIT: Should this have been posted in the site feedback forum? Sorry if so...

#68466 Organizational Idea

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 27 November 2005 - 02:57 PM in Modifications

Awesome, thanks for the support!

#68648 Organizational Idea

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 30 November 2005 - 11:06 PM in Modifications

I realize this is a double post...

So, do people like this idea? Right now it seems kind of luke-warm... If somebody wants me to, I will, if they don't (for any reason OTHER than that they don't want to be like HQ), I won't.

Just let me know folks!

#68652 Organizational Idea

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 01 December 2005 - 02:05 AM in Modifications

What's wrong with that being hosted on NHQ?

Sometimes people get down on that site, I was just trying to avoid any reaction of that sort.

That's awesome that you're working on a full-fledged website, but that's exactly what I am trying to alleviate with this idea. There is so much content on this site already, why not just organize it? Or is that what you plan on doing? Because if you are, how do you rectify the bajillion nf mods out there? My idea is just to list them, and let the modder decide, rather than passing judgment myself.

Sorry if this sounds confrontational, because I'm not trying to be; I'm just wondering!

#68664 Organizational Idea

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 01 December 2005 - 05:46 PM in Modifications

That sounds like a plan. I sent an e-mail to Grinchy to see what his thoughts on it were. I'll let everybody know from there.

#68682 Organizational Idea

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 02 December 2005 - 01:07 AM in Modifications

I made a topic waiting to be pinned. It's at least started.

Also, Grinch e-mailed me back, and said that as long as I were to write the html and such, he'd put it up.

I'm going to first focus on the directory specific to NH, then go from there. It's going to be awhile!


#68494 Organizational Idea

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 27 November 2005 - 08:12 PM in Modifications

P.S. nerfworld.com is an entire site dedicated to what your talking about.

I just looked up nerfworld.com, and it appears to be down right now... But I understand what you're saying. The difference here is that these mods will all be just ordinary posts/write-ups, not a full web page dedicated to mods.

Thats a neat idea.
But, if your just going to basically make a mods directory...
Its been done before.

I agree... When I originally posted this, I hadn't seen HQ for a while. But like Dux said, we need one for here.

The only negative I can see about compiling a mods list is that really n00bish people won't look at it unless something is done to make the list really obvious.  A reference in the COC perhaps, or maybe a link on the forum sub menu. 

Definitely. But I pose this to you as well... The second post in a topic started by a newer member is usually about reading the CoC... Perhaps that can just be accompanied with a note/link to the directory.

Oh yeah! I realized this idea might displace/replace this pin: Pinned. Oh well?

#57844 Mav Barrel Mod?

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 20 June 2005 - 11:31 PM in Modifications

Thanks, I'm going to try sanding down the cpvc to provide a more loose fit... and that single barrel mav... whoa!

I'll let you know how it goes, which probably won't be till tomorrow morning. Thanks!

#80523 Sspb Mini Shooter

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 21 April 2006 - 02:55 AM in Modifications

Added to the directory!


#60177 While Making Something Else, I Made....

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 25 July 2005 - 04:40 PM in Modifications

Thanks guys, especially for the tip about the goop!

and blink, you wouldn't remember where you've seen it before, have you? I'd like to see it.


#60172 While Making Something Else, I Made....

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 25 July 2005 - 03:00 PM in Modifications

The At2k Luger (sort of... I feel a red jacket approaching!)

My goal was to make a high-performance airsoft loser rifle, and I succeded. But obviously, this is a nerf forum. So, here's where this post brings its relevancy.

I used an at2k to power this thing, and tried to make it as small as possible by removing most of the Spaceman Spiff aspect of the gun. I love Spaceman Spiff, but hey, I'll make a death blaster later.

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I basically sawed straight across the shell of the gun. Then, I took apart the liquid cylinder, drained the goo, and sawed off the cylinder. Then I filled the resulting hole with goop, let it dry, and put it back together. I'm pretty sure that the goop part is completely unnecessary, as the cylinder appears to be completle sealed off by the rubber diaphram (which is very important to put back!). I also cut off the circular fixture at the back of the gun that held the clear dark plasic cylinder. At the time of taking the pics, I was going to use it as some sort of site.

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After the sawing of the shell was complete, I had to affix the tank. This was done by hot glueing a small sliver of 3/4 PVC approximately an inch long directly to the pump shaft, then hot gluing the airtank in front of the PVC sliver. Then I put some e-tape around there for security (not shown in the pictures).
NOTE: Prior to this, I had unscrewed the part where the tube connects to the liquid cylinder, and screwed it back on, resulting in it being cock-eyed like in the picture.

If I was just trying to make a small nerf pistol, I would have then stuck a 7" piece of 1/2" cpvc on the valve to make a barrel, and put something between the barrel and the body to act as a space (perhaps a ramrod hoilder, then e-taped the bageedin'
geesus out of the gun, perhaps adding some sort of covering to the back to protect the air components. And then I would have had probably the most power per square inch ratio of any nerf gun.

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But I didn't. I made an airsoft rifle, that shoots faster, farther, and more accurately than my Tanfoglio. Sure, not too impressive, but I did make it myself, and it doubles as a shotgun! Woo!

I just need a name. Suggestions? I do plan on adding a covering to the back later, but would greatly appreciate any suggestions on how to do that (I'm thinking balsa wood). Hope no one gets offended by the airsoft plug, but it really was my main goal, and I figured any contribution to covert-nerf-ops would be appreciated. And please don't berate me too roughly if this has been done before.


#78840 College, Etc.

Posted by KirbySaysHi on 05 April 2006 - 07:15 AM in Off Topic

I think I'll be the most inactive member to relay plans...

I'm in the same boat as Shindig, with about 5 weeks or so of my sophomore year at UW Madison until sweet, sweet summer, when I get to make money and play shows in Milwaukee, Madison, Appleton, maybe Illinois and Iowa as well rockin the piano with my Bop Rock band called Ticket251.

Otherwise, I'm currently undeclared and running out of time, but I'm trying to get a major created for me that focuses on making music out of foam projectiles.

Actually, I'm thinking about graphic design. But, I'm pretty sure I could BS that above major into existence.

Speaking of art, I'm up at this early hour because I just stayed up all night working on an art video involving eggs being dropped upon me.

And the bands:
George Dust (no site yet... sorry!)

So, if anybody's in the Madison area, and feels like talking/getting hit with foam, give me a ring. A ding a ding.


Oh duce, as far as Lawrence goes... they've got a great jazz program, and a wonderful "classical" program as well... but if you're more into the electronic side of musical performance/production, perhaps you might want to look at University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee? I've heard they have a great electro-acoustic sound department... because at somewhere like Lawrence or U of M, it's either going to be classical, or jazz (which is really classical with some jazz added in for spice), but all the sound production stuff (like recording, mastering, mixing, etc) you're going to have to learn on your own. But, Lawrence does have the Fred Sturm. Good man, he is. (Appleton is one of my home towns.)

OR, you could head over to UW Oshkosh, as they have a double major program: sound engineer AND a music major. Which means you're basically a god at audio, and pretty good at an instrument. It also means you worked your butt off. But music majors do that anyway, eh?

Sheesh I'm wordy.