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#360127 2017 Modification/Homemade Contest

Posted by Pineapplepies on 26 May 2017 - 01:02 PM in General Nerf

 

 

 

 I'm confused. What's an "Ultimate" blaster mod writeup? 

 

In general, though, if you build a blaster and you take the pictures and you write the instructions (i.e. don't copy and paste), you're eligible. Ideally, if your mod is based on someone else's work, you at least have something a little extra to make it "yours." Even if that's mostly an aesthetic addition.

 

Also, be sure to credit whoever your work is based on.

He is refering to lorddraconials way of calling his "everything basic" type mods, for example: a non-cut, non-painted firestrike with increased seal, padding, spring, ar and lock removal, and nothing besides that. It's a maxed out blaster without any shell painting, reinforcing, or crazy additions, and excludes anything related to replacing or improving parts. It's a extreme sleeper if you know what that is, no modding can be detected unless you look very closely or note the slightly different spring.(In fact this is honestly sort of overpowered in some cases because you can bring it to a stock only war and have it pass for a regular blaster, and the preformence isn't enough different to get you kicked out, but enough to provide more range).

 

 

Heh heh, sorry for not explaining that part... What I meant was, all the basic, easy modifications in one big write up (ARs, better seal, spring upgrade, no deadspace, lock removal, reinforcements, and a paint job).
Hope that clears it up... Sorry for the confusion.

Bubba, i would caution you on making a ultimate blaster, because Jwasko said you have to change at least something something to not plaugerize, and as you know drac has MANY videos out there. However, my suggestion would to be is do what you asked about, and then put something crazy, or add some special features and or cosmetics to make it earn more points, because every point counts!

 

 

Jwasko, so let me get this straight, are modded water blasters allowed? And like do you have to have an amazing paintjob or colors to get a lot of points in the aesthetics category?




#360547 3rd party MEGA darts?

Posted by Pineapplepies on 13 June 2017 - 08:51 AM in Darts and Barrels

I've had these reccomended to me http://www.ebay.com/...xIAAOSw8-tWYHcR
 
Haven't bought them yet but thinking about it .

Yup! These are with sponge and Silica gel so I can promise you these are the same as mine, feel free to buy mine or those.



#360523 3rd party MEGA darts?

Posted by Pineapplepies on 12 June 2017 - 09:26 AM in Darts and Barrels

Hey all, wondering if anyone knows of any 3rd party, aftermarket, or non-hasbro darts that work with nerf megas.
My mega bigshock is now one of my favorite nerf pistols, especially after removing the AR, dart post, adding omw 7kg retaliator spring, and worker barrel adapter. It shoots mega darts, elite darts and rival balls really hard and far. But mega darts are faaaaar from accurate.
I would LOVE some mega sized koosh, or waffle, or fvj/fvn darts.
Any of you know of anything besides crappy nerf mega darts?
Thanks!

So there is a long story, and I will start off by saying DON'T buy those rayethion darts, someone didn't read the post, those are elite size darts. Now you have two options, one is a serious don't buy, they are crappy, jam, have terrible foam and I have tried all mega darts. Out of these, only 2-3 work. The other one, is made out of regular foam and SILICA gel, pay attention to that, because it's important to make sure you don't get the crappy one. The crappy ones are made out of EVA and soft plastic, don't buy those.

Now, i wouldn't exactly recommend these darts, but neither would I say don't buy these, it's an odd case quite frankly. With these, they whistle MUCH more than regular nerf darts, at the cost of durability. They won't last as long as regular nerf megas, and not every gun will fit these perfectly. Only the rotofury seems to have an issue with this though.


Here's link for 120 at 12.99:https://www.amazon.c...Nerf mega darts



#359211 Another Nerf-puter project

Posted by Pineapplepies on 13 April 2017 - 04:40 PM in Modifications

The fdl2 has dials for Firesign mode:semi, burst, full auto. And rof control. This cannot be done with the mechanicly pushed stryfe.
Whoops on the dart counter meaker. I thought that would have more attention as one of the coolest things.

  
That's not what I mean, I meant that it would be similar to the FDL-2, and as opposed to having electronically powered pusher, I mean this system or make a dial that can manipulate the voltage going to the motors, and modify the speeds, and potentially have something that can be control the fps.


Yeah the work involved to make it a 'counter' was kind of trivial so I din't highlight that feature, but yeah that should be given more emphasis given it's the most important part of it. Also, I called it a 'round counter' in my post, not an 'ammo counter'. Rounds/ammo... same difference... though "round" seems like the more appropriate word. When I hear the word 'rounds', I'm thinking darts in a clip... when I hear the word 'ammo', I'm thinking darts in a scavengers bucket. IDK, LOL!!!
 
Pineapplepies, that's the first I've heard of 'FDL-2'... I'll have to look in to that. As far as controlling flywheel and feeder motors, I think both features would stay within range of the 328p. The select fire feeder motor thing would require probably 4 GPIOs (2 switches on a dial => bits for 4 modes, a feeder position switch, and motor driver output), and some simple logic fed from the remaining rounds variable. The flywheel could be controlled with a logic level FET (I'm a big fan of those) and analogWrite() I believe, since that uses Timer0 and the IR sensor is rigged to Timer1. Not 100% sure, but one problem I forsee with using Timer0 analogWrite(), is it may introduce some error in the RPM measurements (which gets micros() from Timer0). I think the errors would be negligible though, and if they weren't then maybe analogWrite() can be ported to use Timer2 for this project (I've ported a servo lib to another timer on an unrelated mega based project... wasn't that hard to do). With 3 analog inputs left, adding a 'flywheel speed dial' to that would be trivial.
 
Now my mind digs deeper down the rabbit hole... how about developing a PID loop to set actual FPS with the dial... that would be tight!!! We could get the flywheels smart... make them adjust up/down depending on what FPS is coming out the other end.
 
Anyhow, my time to work on code can be hit/miss depending on my work/family schedule. This is open source code, and I'm no expert coder. There are many things that could be done more clearly/efficiently, on top of adding desired features. I haven't shared on Nerf reddit... I figure one place is better than 2, and Nerf Haven seemed the best spot for this. That said, I might put this on github if there are other dudes wanting to work on it.
 
At the moment, it compiles around 84% progmem with the useless splashscreen, and 69% without the splashscreen. That leaves plenty of 'hard drive' to add features. SRAM is at 82% with or without the splashscreen, but so far the heap hasn't crashed on me. Before I was using float arrays, 90% SRAM, and that was crashing. So, when we start talking about adding more to the data tables (like current, etc...), or expanding the max clip size, we may run in to the limit of the 328p. That said, I've got some extra esp8266's. I think the code for that would be even simpler, since the ide has built in esp stuff that does better than 65nsec (so no need for input capture, and direct port probably won't be necessary). That would make for a much more compatible and easier to read code, but I enjoy squeezing blood from rocks.
 
Kevin

Yes, that's what I meant, I mean find a way to allow this to control or post how you can control the speeds of the motors. Some people may not think it's useful, but when you get into the area of FDL-2 performance you may not want to give some nasty welts so you can turn down the speed. My other idea with that was that if you are in a really long battle you can limit the voltage going to the motors, so if you only get one 2s pack you don't burn through your battery too fast. And yes, that's exactly what I meant, finding a way to control fps.



#359172 Another Nerf-puter project

Posted by Pineapplepies on 11 April 2017 - 08:14 PM in Modifications

Could you hook this up with a system, and or could you possibly code this to regulate the flywheel speeds and then furthermore control the thing with dials, that would make this FDL-2 but open source AND in a much smaller and versatile package which would be groundbreaking.



#351256 Any Nerfers around Northbrook or Glenview

Posted by Pineapplepies on 30 January 2016 - 12:11 PM in Nerf Wars

So I recently have gotten really into nerf, but unluckily I have not found any groups around my area. I was also looking into possibly hosting a war since I live near a massive field that could be used. Anyway, if anyone is around the area and would host a war/join one I create please tell me.



#358136 Anyone Hosting a Chicago-area/Northern Illinois Nerf War?

Posted by Pineapplepies on 22 February 2017 - 12:16 PM in Nerf Wars

 

I'm not trying to discourage you from hosting your own war.  Unfortunately, yes, I feel like I have to be a downer, because people get a little short sighted sometimes and need a reality check.  It isn't personal.

      Fair enough, I can see why you would want to say that, and hey that's fine to be a downer just don't go around saying things along the lines of "don't do this because there is another group and you guys have a bad idea" because that can be picked up like how I did which was I thought you were trying to discourage us from doing a war. 

      My point is though I have been itching to get involved in the community and quite possibly run something myself because we have a perfect location and a bunch of people that would come.(As i mentioned I can get up to 30 people by myself)

 

It looks like you've been around this site for a while and are pretty active as of late. I was curious if you knew anyone from our area that could join this war, or anyone from the west coast that has contacts near us. There's obviously a great nerf scene on both the east and west coasts, but in terms of the Midwest: every major group is scattered at least 2 or 3 hours away from Chicago i.e. Grand Rapids, Milwaukee, Iowa City, Dayton, etc. As you see there hasn't been a huge response from since the posting, kind of odd for the 3rd largest city in America. I've a feeling that maybe all we need is some advertising to get people's attention. What do you say man?

 

Also, Jim, I find it funny that you could be my dad. No disrespect or nothing, it's just a little weird and funny. Its good to see that age doesn't take the fun out of Nerf for ya. Hopefully I'll be the same in 20 years.

Yeah, at this point I think it may be smart to post a thread about this. I will do that right now in fact and we can continue this there, but I feel like it would be smart to put this in a place where people know what we are talking about by the title. I think that would be ample advertising and would get us somewhere, and think why we haven't gotten anyone is because few people check every thread.




#358260 Anyone Hosting a Chicago-area/Northern Illinois Nerf War?

Posted by Pineapplepies on 27 February 2017 - 04:47 PM in Nerf Wars

Hey, I was searching even further through the older forums on this site and found this Chicagoland Nerf Facebook group: http://nerfhaven.com/forums/topic/27300-scsnw-presents-frozen-foam-n-foliage-il/?hl=chicago 

 

 The link advertises a war that happened last November in Romeoville, but maybe we could use it to invite some people that have attended one of their wars? I can do it myself, I have an account.

Yes, use that, use anything you can, we just need people, I don't care if we get 60 people or 6 people, we just should get a war up and running because I would like to meet the community.




#358085 Anyone Hosting a Chicago-area/Northern Illinois Nerf War?

Posted by Pineapplepies on 20 February 2017 - 03:32 PM in Nerf Wars

Sorry for late response drafted something then forgot to post it and then life got crazy but no I'm not dead

So I went looking around on some other forms. I responded to a few people living in neighboring states like Iowa and Michigan and invited them to join our war. However, it sucks because everyone seems to be at least 3 hours away from Chicago. That's going to be a major problem for many people, I can just feel it. I hope that we can pull this off before the end of spring because I probably will be moving out of state for college this summer so I won't be living in Chicago anymore.
 
That said, we don't need to rush.... But we've got to have our nerf war before then. Invite as many people as possible. Search this website for forums, even if those people live like 4 or 5 hours away. Pineapplepies: I joined that Facebook group that dude from Oregon talked about. It's an Indoor Arena, probably similar to Paintball. There's actually an event going on in a week, but I'm sick right now so I won't go. You should make an account and join: https://www.facebook...10849652421933/
 
Anyway, if you know someone that just might enjoy a few games of nerf, go ahead and ask him/her if they would be interested in joining. I've got someone that might come with me depending on when we plan out the game day. We need everyone we can get.

 
Yes, if we can drum up some more support that would be great, I have about 30 or so people who I could get to join, most of them would be younger than me though and not all of them will be available but that being said they also wouldn't have much stuff, some of the, have their own things but in terms of being well equipped so far to my knowledge that would be just me. Let's see if we can get some more people and host a war on a place that is literally begging to be used. Speaking of which, there is a MASSIVE field I could host this on, which is from one end to the other at least a 2 minute walk for a average size human so pretty large. Other than that, let's just continue and see if we can do this.
 

Just didn't want you guys to miss out on a strong group because you have the wrong idea.

Draconis we can still do this if we want, you don't always have to be so much of a downer all of them time and I have been around for some time so I have seen your posts. I still want to host a war because personally it would be preferable to be able to finally become a part of the community and to be able to quite possibly win against people much older than me

Edit:also, we have a indoor place we could do this too, not extremely large but sizable enough that it could host a small war with downwards of 30 people



#357876 Anyone Hosting a Chicago-area/Northern Illinois Nerf War?

Posted by Pineapplepies on 07 February 2017 - 01:11 PM in Nerf Wars

For what it's worth, I'm often willing to drive down to the Chicago area to attend a war.


Ok so that's three people, not enough for a war yet but I always can get some others, if anyone else is willing to make it out here, i could host this.



#357856 Anyone Hosting a Chicago-area/Northern Illinois Nerf War?

Posted by Pineapplepies on 06 February 2017 - 02:28 PM in Nerf Wars

Hi, I am a newcomer to this nerf war meetup website (thank God there is such a thing) and over the past few months I've been viewing the 2016 and now the 2017 Nerf War Schedules. It seems to me that most of the action is happening on either the east, west, or southern boarders of the United States of America. That is unfortunate and it would be quite an ordeal for me, personally, to have to pay for a couple hundred dollar plane ticket and fly a thousand miles just for a nerf war. That said, Is there anyone here that would be interested in hosting a Nerf War within a 2-Hour Radius of Chicago, Illinois?
 
That means no further north than Milwaukee, Wisconsin, no further south than Champaign, Illinois, no further west than Sterling, Illinois, and no further east than Elkhart, Indiana. Anything that is more-or-less the same distance as these cities (or closer) to Chicago would be acceptable for me. I would host it myself, but I have grave doubts that I could pull it off successfully as "the new guy" who has never attended a nerf war in his life. I simply don't want there to be any issues that could come up unexpectedly that would mean canceling the whole thing and have complaints about wasting everyone's time. It's not that I don't have the balls, believe me on that. Now, I am aware that there was a meeting in Milwaukee just a couple of months ago, but I happened to miss it right before I discovered NerfHaven. I am also aware that there is an upcoming war in Minnesota this April, but St. Paul is 6 hours by car and by Megabus its 8 hours+. That's just way out my range guys. But don't forget that there is also the possibility of human error and I might be just insanely blind. Perhaps there already is a war planned in the near future that will be happening somewhere close to me that I have not discovered yet. If that is the case, please just direct me to that thread. I would greatly appreciate it.
 
Thank you and God Bless.

Finally someone else near Chicago. Hate to tell you man but I really don't know if there is many people out here who nerf. I am here, am located around Northbrook/Glenview, and even have an amazing field out here that would work. Only problem is I don't know who would be interested and I am not crazy into modding and only have some basic things so would be outclassed by anyone experienced. Personally, if you and I can stir up some interest I would be willing to host it even though I likely would be younger than most. So if anyone is around Chicago area or would be willing to come out to Glenview/Northbrook, or if someone more experienced would like to run it and I can provide the field, then we would be able to pull this off.



#357939 Anyone Hosting a Chicago-area/Northern Illinois Nerf War?

Posted by Pineapplepies on 12 February 2017 - 11:34 AM in Nerf Wars

How have you guys not found the big CNW group on Facebook?  Many of the members can also be found here, and they usually post the war threads here, but most of the planning is done on the FB group.
https://www.facebook...hicagonerfwars/

 Draconis I don't have Facebook, plus there should be a war for people like me.
 

Hey! Well what do you know... People responded!
 
I'm sorry for not responding quicker, I didn't think I would get any responses within the first couple days. I'm not really familiar with how many people we would need for a war. I assumed about 10 or 15 would the minimum for it to be worth it. We still need a few people, but it's a start. Thanks for agreeing to host, Pineapplepies. Like I said, I've never done this before and I don't know any other players so really you 2 guys are going to be the ones that invite other players, decide what rules we will play by, what guns we are going to use, and if mods are acceptable or not. The future is in your hands....
 
Just for yall's information, I have the following guns: The Vulcan Minigun, a Recon CS-6, The Retaliator, 2 Hammershot Blasters, and a Nite Finder Pistol. Some of these guns are a few years old and unfortunately don't work as well as they used to. Also, I have about 150 random darts for use. If we manage to gather enough players, I'm probably going to go shopping for some nice guns before the war.
 
I live in Norwood Park neighborhood in Chicago. I feel kind of bad for HQRSE CQCK that has to drive 5+ hours from Rochester, Minnesota. When I saw that I couldn't believe it. That's a pretty insane drive just for a nerf war.  It just goes to show that us "Nerfers" are far and few between and we've got to make the most of every war. So lets kick some Fuckin' Ass with this war!

Wow ok so maybe I don't have as few things as I thought, I have all of what you have plus MUCH more and most of mine are modded if possible. I am also sorry for not responding quick, didn't get this until I got back from a trip. Ok so I mean as I said above, I still feel like we should attempt a nerfhaven run one because I don't have Facebook. I mean we could get some people from that group too. Other than that still seeing if anyone else is willing to come, reply to this if you want to come



#358601 Anyone willing to come out for a Chicago area nerf war?

Posted by Pineapplepies on 17 March 2017 - 08:54 AM in Nerf Wars

 
Yeah, I know about that Facebook Nerf group and I am a member too, but I can't make that "Dawn of Foam" war. I almost punched a Fuckin hole in my computer screen when I found out it's happening on April 2nd... my high school's Spring Break starts on March 30th and I'm going to be flying out of town that Friday to visit some Universities in the Big Apple. That's life, I suppose.
 
 
Nice man. Scratch 1 more player, Pineapplepies.
 
Andy, if you know anyone that like to Nerf PLEASE tell them about this Nerf war in Chicago.
We're having a really hellish time gathering players, this is the 2nd month and we only have like 4-5 people.
 
Thanks!
 

Heh heh seems like pacnick too has spring break, that's why I am leaving. Ok cool! So we have another, let us still try to advertise and see if we can get anywhere, paknick if you could try maybe saying a comment on the facebook page saying come to this war and get people to join that would be great. I think a good number of people we need at least is 6 people, then that on top of my friends which would add a fair amount of people. 
For the people who are joining, what sort of guns do you have, does anyone have some loaners or things others can use?

I'd be willing to come for a little bit, but mainly for the purpose of selling what I've got left... I of course will participate though. Im a bit south, in joliet

 
Anyways, ok, yeah actually I am interested in some of your stuff I would buy it there, in fact actually if you have $50 worth of blasters or the equivalent, I can just hand you a $50 visa gift card.

Edit:nevermind on whole double post thing, thank you ice nine



#359020 Anyone willing to come out for a Chicago area nerf war?

Posted by Pineapplepies on 04 April 2017 - 01:15 PM in Nerf Wars

Well... showing up is all that really matters, especially considering our circumstances with an incredibly low player count. As of right now, I honestly couldn't care less about what kind of blasters we're going to be using (mod or non-mod), the game-modes we decide to play, or the overall quality of the Nerf War. All I want is at least 15 or so players, a determined location, and a date/time for this nerf war. It's not that I'm being lazy or impatient, but considering the fact that I will probably be moving cross-country in about 3 & 1/2 months... there is a chance that I will have to throw in the towel and drop out of this thread if things don't speed up between now and summer. I really, really don't want this to happen so that's why I keep telling you guys to please help me out with the advertising, on here and on Facebook. We have 3 months to get it together. Time will fly, trust me.


Hmmmmm this isn't good, we are about 6 days away from 3 months until you leave, so here's the deal. I can get my friends in on this if everyone's fine on that, or we could have a small war with whoever we have. As for the others, please just advertise on Facebook, speaking of which Pacnick have you tried advertising to the group in Milwaukee? Look in the wars thread there is a lot of wars within an hour of us so I think I'm going to go advertise there.



#358585 Anyone willing to come out for a Chicago area nerf war?

Posted by Pineapplepies on 16 March 2017 - 04:02 PM in Nerf Wars

Yeah, I don't understand it at all. My original forum has been active for over a month already. There's 9.4 Million people living in the Chicagoland area and we get only 4 players? Let me say that again: 9.4 Million. That is an insane number of people. There should be way, way more people responding to this forum. I shouldn't have to look into other NerfHaven forums or venture into the world of Facebook just to invite players living 3-4 hours away. What about the 2.7 million residents of Chicago? Where the hell are all the Chicagoans? This is the largest city in America for Christ's Sake!!!!

Yeah you are right, it is crazy, I just don't understand how so few people are into this hobby it is great.

If you're having issues with outreach, you might have to branch out to Facebook (the Chicago Nerf Wars group is fairly active). They're hosting their Dawn of Foam war on April 2nd, that would probably be a good occasion for you to meet some other nerfers in your area and spread the word that you're willing to host wars.

Ok, well thanks for advice, pacnick this is your que, see if you can go to this, I know im going to be away but that being said I want to see if one of us could go and we could advertise.




#358654 Anyone willing to come out for a Chicago area nerf war?

Posted by Pineapplepies on 20 March 2017 - 09:02 AM in Nerf Wars

 

Well, I know that I am advertising our Nerf War, not sure about others though. It would really help if I wasn't alone doing all this messaging. If you look through the forums, I've commented on just about every nerf group's forum within 4-5 hours of Chicago. Honestly, I've done as much as I can on here and on Facebook. If I do anymore messaging, I'm sure people will say that I am harassing them and I defiantly don't want that.

 

Keep in mind, it's been over 1 and 1/2 months since the initial posting. This war needs to happen before July, otherwise I won't be able to make it. :( 

I know, this is getting annoying, and I'm sorry I can't help but I have basically promised to myself that I don't need, and will not be joining social networks. 

However,

TO ANYONE OUT THERE THIS IS YOUR TIME TO RESPOND, AND TO ANYONE WHO ALREADY WANTS TO GO PLEASE ADVERTISE,

 

Here is the info;

This will take place preferably on the weekend of April 20th,

We will have almost no bans on darts or blasters(subject to change)

It will be hosted on a LARGE field in area code 60025, glenview, chicago, illinois, so homemades allowed

Anyone will be allowed, all ages,

I already have many darts including glue domes,

We will have many loaners so if you have nothing you can come

And other than that we will have fun so please come out




#358152 Anyone willing to come out for a Chicago area nerf war?

Posted by Pineapplepies on 22 February 2017 - 09:36 PM in Nerf Wars

Whoa, thats 4 hours away, but I'll ask the parents(so maybe). Do you know when you are thinking this will be?


Mid march or April, we still need to see if we can get anyone else before we finalize date



#358488 Anyone willing to come out for a Chicago area nerf war?

Posted by Pineapplepies on 10 March 2017 - 12:48 PM in Nerf Wars

We still have no response, we need people for this war, so anyone who sees this and would come out PLEASE say something.



#358138 Anyone willing to come out for a Chicago area nerf war?

Posted by Pineapplepies on 22 February 2017 - 12:27 PM in Nerf Wars

Hello,

So if anyone has payed attention to the thread talking about hosting a nerf war in Chicago area this is continued from there. What I am wondering if is anyone would be willing to come out to 60025 area for a war. People of all ages would be allowed and mention if anyone else would join you. We need a headcount to see if we have enough to host a war.

 

So far we have myself, and up to 30 others for a definite(realistically about 10-15)

 

Possible others(who have mentioned they may attend)

Daniel Beaver

Pacnick11

 

We haven't figured out the rules yet, however we would allow mostly everything so expect a more intense war, and we would allow all kinds of mods and maybe homemades if enough people have them. For playing area we have a very large field that is long enough to launch sizeable model rockets and have them end up in grass so you calculate how large a field would need to be to do that.

 

So anyone interested? If so just please comment below




#358189 Anyone willing to come out for a Chicago area nerf war?

Posted by Pineapplepies on 24 February 2017 - 02:34 PM in Nerf Wars

Hey! I think his name is Daniel Beaver, he mentioned that maybe we should just try playing with just 4-6 players to start off. Would you consider it? I would do it if no one else decides to join our war, but I don't know if that would be worth it for people driving 3-4 hours. I think we need at least 10 players before we set a time and date. What do you think man?

Yup, fine with me, we should see if we can get anyone else, keep up the good work, we need more people because I would prefer if we have more people from here than my friends to keep it interesting, but yeah keep messaging people stuff and send messages to people near the area. 4-6 would be fine but I want to see if we can get more because I know what I'm doing, I may be young but I can be a leader and can easily handle a bunch of people, in fact it is I, a mid teenager that is hosting a local 40+ war for my neighbor with cancer so I think I can handle it. 




#355057 Artifact darts

Posted by Pineapplepies on 17 July 2016 - 07:25 PM in Darts and Barrels

 Still hoping for a miracle or design improvement on Artifact's end,  this is the closest the community has ever come to a legit source of darts

Can't agree with you more that a lot of potentially amazing darts have gotten so close to being created then just dropped. Artifact himself came on here and posted about new darts that would of if the design worked and the darts were cheap they would be the best and most bought of darts on the market. But then he kinda just went silent and the prototype new ACCS turned out to be not as rubbery as ACCS and sadly about as pricy as the original. I am wondering if you could try to find a way to weigh them down more by using some magical fairy dust or something non metal to fix the not flying straight at high speeds.



#349331 Barrel Length for Air Blasters

Posted by Pineapplepies on 27 October 2015 - 07:44 AM in Darts and Barrels

It matters what tank. If its a mid volume one like a at3k/2k then 12in of airgun fit. If its a larger volume blaster like a big blast it will need 16-20 depending on dart fit. Some air guns like the sm1500 have a faster air release, which means you should tighten up your barrel so its atleast a push fit. This is mostly just my opinion, from what ive read and seen from videos, but i may be wrong and if i am please correct me below.

What if I have a titan and am using cpvc from Lowes for barrel material? I currently have around a 10 inch barrel and am wondering if I should add 6 inches of cpvc or more.



#349866 Barricade will not power on out of box.

Posted by Pineapplepies on 06 December 2015 - 10:41 PM in General Nerf

Hey, I've found no help this far. I bought my son one of these. he is not strong enough to prime or pump  anything else so far. I pulled it out and decided to try it before wrapping it for Christmas. After switching it on 3 times and empty out the darts each time, it will no longer power on. Every soldering point looks intact. Batteries were RAYOVAC brand new. In typing this I realize I could go buy better batteries. Still any feedback  would be so much appreciated!!
 
Thank you very much
-Adam

Not sure if it is too late, but I would think you may want to try and see if the switch feels like it is stuck. If it is and that is the problem, then try pulling the trigger all the way. To my knowledge, both the Stockage and the Barricade will jam like that from time to time since the pusher arm will get stuck.



#358924 Bulk mags

Posted by Pineapplepies on 30 March 2017 - 03:56 PM in General Nerf

Bump for above because apparently it decided not to actually register that I posted
Edit:mod please condense post, I am honestly not sure why it posted twice, then also wouldn't register



#358957 Bulk mags

Posted by Pineapplepies on 01 April 2017 - 05:43 AM in General Nerf

I have run three wars, most of which had over 30 people of varying ages, nerf experience, and enthusiasm, some with very little budget. I will say to you again, from experience, it is not your job as host to make sure everyone who shows up has a gear loadout that you think is optimal.  Most of the people coming should be bringing their own blasters, and the available loaners for people who don't should not be magazine fed, especially not fed from cheapo magazines that don't correctly fit or feed. If you want advice on running a war, I am happy to tell you everything I know and I am sure plenty of other people would be as well. If you want me to tell you you're making great decisions by buying bulk mags to use in loaners, that's not going to happen. That wouldn't be support, that would be me lying to you and encouraging you to waste your money. People will come to wars with a jolt and have fun. Fun is what you should be going for here. You're not training elite nerf teams for Endwar or a trip to the SENC. You're having a fun event for mostly non-competitive nerfers to benefit a dying friend. You would probably be better off banning magazine fed blasters rather than trying to ensure there are enough for everyone.


Ok, I think I finally get the point you are getting across, then that decides it. I will still be getting mags, because the main problem is banning mags would just decrease the amount of blasters available by about two thirds and that's not a good idea when I know for a fact a bunch of people won't have blasters. However I think I'm going to take your advice and for the loaners I'm going to get some sort of non-mag fed blaster.

Still, my point was I think it would have been smarter if I provided mag fed blasters because although this is a one time thing, i don't have the intention of letting people keep these, so my thought was that it is smarter to get something I can use more and quite possibly mod them later on. Like for example I was planning on getting champions, and if I did I would be able to theoretically mod every single one to hell and back with pump grips and everything if I ever took a small group of friends with me to endwar.

Thank you for the advice though

Edit:and in case you didn't get it, I meant I'm getting mags still because we need enough for the existing blasters we have, but perhaps not for everyone



#358873 Bulk mags

Posted by Pineapplepies on 29 March 2017 - 04:45 AM in General Nerf

I have these mags. They only fit in a rebelle rapid red without modification. Any other blaster would need the mag modded. They only hold 11 but can be modded for 14. They function fine with the only complaint being that they are very brittle. They will not survive a 3 to 4 foot drop on any hard surface. They also normally come from China and take a long time to get them. Hope this helps. NERF on!

Ok cool, thank you for being the only one who got the point of this topic. All those down sides are ok, and could you link me or show me how to mod so they hold 14? Also the brittleness is ok, we are going to be on a street and lawns so for the most part we won't have a hard surface they can drop on, do you think a few layers of duct tape would fix the brittleness.


  

Triads are great for having your opponent under-estimate you. Quick to front load due to small size, and that lower middle barrel (first barrel in the smart AR cycle) can launch darts far better than most other elite blasters stock. They really are exceptional to have, and as long as you use cover, you'll be tactically as effective if you know what you're doing as someone with a lipo powered brushless arduino controlled stryfe which launches darts at glass ceiling velocities.
Skill is a much greater force multiplier than gear.
Now, take someone who knows what they're doing with a triad and hand them the Uber tricked out controllable dart hose and you will have a one man army. Why? If he knows what he's doing with a triad, his gear is simply a multiplier to his skill and not a crutch to cover up weaknesses in tactical and teamwork ability.

 
I think you are missing the point of why I posted this, I'm not here to argue that, I'm here to ask if it would be even possible to use these. You see I don't care about wether or not a triad can beat a person with a super stryfe based on skill, all I needed to know was if it was even possible to use these NO MATTER HOW PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT THEM. My neighbor has cancer that will kill him, we don't have the time or money to get anything except cheap stuff, so that's why I just need to know if they work or 100% no matter what I do they can't work
 

What? What? I thought I just told you - I saw a guy wreck with just a triad against noobs with good gear. I saw another guy with just a hammershot hold off me and my whole team. I've got good gear, and I'm not a noob.
 
The one caveat I'll grant you is that we're playing in heavy cover indoors. The guy who held me off? Hiding behind a 3/4 lite door - we couldn't charge him because his door was covering a kill-zone lobby that would've gotten us mowed down by other people in other cover. My buddy with a triad? In a stairwell plinking at people as they ran by. Still, provide good cover and you'll find that good loaner gear (that can break, is expensive, can fail, etc.) is not necessary.
 

 
What's "not enough"? I'm considering running a double-stack 18 for my next run. That's it. 36 rounds in two stacks. The blasters should have the mags they came with, right?
 

 
Those are the cheapest reliable mags I'll (or anyone I've seen reply to this same question) recommend.
 


Just split the teams! Make it so the heavily geared people are evenly split, no money required, you've solved the issue.


Ok ok, you don't have to get angered I just don't really have that money, it's not me who is paying for all this, I'm a teenager, I don't make that much money. My parents, neighbor, a few people who are donating, and a few aunts and uncles are paying for this, so the less money we have to ask for the better. You point is valid, I'm not arguing here I'm just saying that doesn't matter in the situation we are in, to my knowledge, everyone is on a similar level of experience. So I'm saying I think the gear matters because everyone isn't really a "pro" like you or me because most of them haven't even used nerf guns before, the people who have haven't done it much because they have wars with me and we don't do that often. I mean there are exceptions, but for the most part I would say I am going to have the most gear and experience since I have had many wars, at least 6-7 more than anyone else in the group that comes. I will take your advice on splitting the teams though.

This is going to be such a fun event, plenty of jammed mags for everyone.
 
Edit: If you are going to just ignore what everyone says and insist the cheapo knock off mags are great why did you make a thread asking about cheapo knockoff mags? Just buy them, either they will work or they won't.

Well thanks for the unending support toad, have a great next war too and if you want to how one try running into the same problems I have and get back to me. I'm not fully insisting them, no on except the person who made the first quote on my post understands why I'm here, I'm here to buy a very cheap mags, preferablely the cheapest which is why I linked this one. I'm not here to argue what is better or what is worst, and we deal with mag jams, so what, it will make it more usable and we will be able to use them again and again if we get mags.



#358644 Bulk mags

Posted by Pineapplepies on 19 March 2017 - 09:23 PM in General Nerf

You're looking for something like this IMO, if you get them for 12$ you're paying about 6$ a mag. 
I also have seen terribad quality for those offbrand or knockoff mags. Not sure why you need so many mags, if you just ask for a fuckton of 6 mags you could make those extended old LS mags (I did that and ran them decently for a while since I ran into a similar dilemma)

  
I need a bunch of mags because I'm hosting a war with 30+ people and need at least 1, preferably 2 per person, and one loaner for more than half of that number so I don't exactly have the money to spend on anything except the most bulk and absolute cheapest option. I don't care if I have to file down a billion mags and tell everyone to only use 11 darts, I just need to know if anyone has any experience with them and if they actually are a viable option.

You can find Buzz Bee 20s pretty cheap at walmarts when they have a sale. They need filing to fit in some blasters, but feed smoothly and are higher capacity.

Yeah I already looked into those, but they are too pricey right now and I need these mags soon or they won't arrive in time.



#358653 Bulk mags

Posted by Pineapplepies on 20 March 2017 - 08:50 AM in General Nerf

Absolutely 100% do not loan magazine fed blasters to nerf beginners. They will break your blasters, destroy your darts, and have a very frustrating experience. You can bring a box of 1000 brand new elite darts and every single newbie with a mag fed blaster will manage to scavenge whistlers to put in their mags.

 

edit: also, it is not the host of a wars job to make sure there are enough magazines/stocks/blasters for everyone unless you explicitly promised everyone they didn't need to bring anything. If someone is interested enough in a nerf war to show up they should be interested enough to spend $10 on a triad or something. Your job as a host is to make sure the people with 'starter' blasters are distributed evenly between teams, not that everyone who shows up has a retaliator and three mags.

Again, as said below this isn't a standard war, I trust everyone there and we will be guiding them on how to un-jam, we also aren't using retalitors, we are using champions for some of the loaners.

Edit:there are no teams, there will be a VIP team of the pros protecting my neighbor but this is just for fun

 

Can you get non-mag blasters for everyone? Mag loaded blasters do not make good loaners.

I could, but as a compromise between the people who have stuff and the ones who don't it is better to get something that everyone, not just people who need the loaners, could use. I know they don't, but this isn't exactly a regular war and there will be no large head darts there so mag blasters work. On top of that, the price of the mag fed blaster we would be getting has more firepower and usefulness than any other blaster at that price range

 

I know I didn't mention this but this isn't a regular war, this is a thing hosted by me for my neighbor that has cancer, so everyone there we will know. That also provides us with the opportunity of telling everyone how to successfully un-jam guns and have all of them actually listen. 




#358625 Bulk mags

Posted by Pineapplepies on 18 March 2017 - 09:40 PM in General Nerf

Has anyone tried out these and know if they work? Looking for bulk mags and I see the reviews saying varying things and wondering if anyone knows wether or not it would even be worth looking into these.

Link:http://www.ebay.com/...er/252076908868



#358749 Bulk mags

Posted by Pineapplepies on 24 March 2017 - 09:17 AM in General Nerf

Here are the clips you are looking for. The flip-kits come with (2) 12's and apparently resale @ ~$14. If you find them on sale locally, they'll be less.
 



Why does the VIP team need full loadouts? Why don't you be the VIP escort? You've already got the gear, you've said you're not made of money and doing full loadouts isn't cheap, and there's a distinct possibility you won't have so many people that you need a large team escorting your VIP. Play more of a scavenger-type game and run jungle mags.
 

If everyone has only a few clips, then everyone will need to reload and you'll be fine. Even barring that, I'm telling you, a guy with a triad was just as deadly during at least one round in my last war as I was with a rapid madness and hundreds of rounds. Equipment does not matter; the player (and terrain, and moderation of the game) does.

1.)Well meaker yeah I agree with shandsgator, don't go that far, the skill of the player does in fact matter, but it's better if you know your equipment, I can tell you right now I could win 1 one 1 as an inexperienced player with perfect gear for my play style versus someone with less gear but much better. You just got to know how to move and think quickly, and more gear with good tactics equals win win. For example, I'm not an incredibly good player, and I am not as good as some of the people on here, but I can tell you I can take on and beat others as long as my gear is good enough, and even if not, I spend time studying different types of people, I can learn how to be like someone then I can tell how to beat them, and this can all be done as a noob as long as you get the right gear. The player makes the game function and makes the moves, but the equipment makes the player. 

 

A pro with a triad can not win against someone with a noob who knows their gear even if they are new. Gear>player skill as long as you know your pros and cons to your loadout. In real steel and in nerf, a new loser can win against pro with a pistol as long as they know how not to get too close.

 

2.)the VIP team consists of people who have the blasters they need to do well, that are mag fed, but not enough mags.

 

3.)Thank you, but I'm looking for something cheaper, I said we need a lot, not high quality, even with the crap mages I can get about 5-6 for the same price.

 

 

I wouldn't go THAT far, but your point is well noted. I've noticed how teamwork, physical conditioning and strategy can easily trump equipment. But on the flipside, If you have the right set up, you can absolute demolish your opposition that isn't well equipped, even if they are in better physical condition and are an overall "better" player.

Yes, that's half and half what I'm saying, what meaker is saying most certainly matters, but there are many cases where in the end you can't beat someone who has better gear even if you can move fast. It takes an exceptionally good player to make the situations where ungeared players can beat overgeared players, and those situations are not present in this war so gear and mags matter.




#358670 Bulk mags

Posted by Pineapplepies on 21 March 2017 - 08:15 AM in General Nerf

I find 2-team battles go better than free-for-alls, FYI. Even just for fun. Gunslinger could also be a better round.
 

 
You keep trying to compromise between people: I'm telling you, I've shown up fully loaded and done just as well as a guy with a single triad. It's about the individual player's playstyle, not their equipment, and they'll adjust to how well/not well equipped they are.
 


I'm having a hard time understanding that. I find strongarms (or similar) at thrift stores all the time for a few bucks, and Triads, Strongarms and Hammershots are all valid secondaries even if you go mag-fed. All three will pretty well match most unmodded mag-fed blasters (buzz bee is the exception) and are just  as 'useful', you just can't carry as much ammo. Big deal, everyone scavenges more often.
 
For the cost of mags alone you could pick up triads for everybody and call it a day. Unless you already have the mag-fed blasters, get/use something else, and even if you do I'd strongly consider picking up some non-mag fed blasters.
 

I don't think this will go the way you think it will go. Just because it's a special event doesn't mean everyone will suddenly not be terrible at using mag-fed blasters. If you want to make it special for your neighbor, make sure it works for everyone and limit possible frustration points. Give the neighbor the only mag fed blaster and clips and teach them how to use it, so they get to have extra-fun.

1.)Well free for all is most likely what we are going to be doing because it's just a group of people from the neighborhood, including fairly old adults(40-50), however we may try gamemodes, speaking of which does anyone know a database for different gamemodes?

 

2.)Fair enough, but the thing is that we need something mag fed to level the playing ground, I know very well I excel at this because of my skill not my blasters, although that amplifies it. The problem with non-mag fed is that the point of having a VIP team and getting loaners is so we actually have fun, and have to work together rather than wipe the floor with everyone just because we have access to many guns. Trust me, I know the people we are going against, myself alone I could take down about 5-6 players with a triad and we are talking about 10 people on the VIP team

 

3.)Hmmmmmmm, it's an option but I still feel it would be better if we get mag fed blasters to allow an actual challenge.

 

4.)Then again we could also just give the pros these, but that being said either way we need to get mags, even if it's for less people which was why I asked for cheap mags and wanted to know if these work




#358677 Bulk mags

Posted by Pineapplepies on 21 March 2017 - 12:47 PM in General Nerf

I play with just a bunch of kids (+/-70) from the neighborhood and adults (30-40). Trust me, you need to break up into teams. Free-for-all with newbies will just be a brawl with no rules; it'll be fun for all of 20 minutes. Breaking up into teams should take a few minutes; equipment you should get is something to signify teams with. Rolls of colored duct tape or flagging tape are cheap & easy options.
 
Also, This is literally 4 topics up from yours right now. If you've never run a war, two-team CTF is a game that everyone should already understand so it'd be easy to play. Do 3-hits and 30-seconds counting at each team's base to respawn if you have the numbers you think you will; 15 seconds if you have 20 or less. The 'flags' should be heavy and/or awkward things (yoga balls, Giant 10+' tall flags, medicine balls, a folding table & chairs, etc. etc.) if you're in a field you can sprint across in a few seconds, they can be regular flags if not.
 
 

 
 Then thin the heard on the VIP team. If you can wipe the enemy team solo, you be the VIP team.
 
In our games, I have wiped entire opposing teams. I have also been knocked out a ton of times. The trick to having fun is that the other teams get players like me too - you've got to spread the older guys around, spread the more experienced guys around, spread the better equipped guys around, and spread the less experienced cannon fodder around. That'll keep the teams balanced, which is more fun than unbalanced.
 
If you're all doing this for the enjoyment of 1 person, then you and other volunteers be on the opposite team and throw the game in their favor. If you stack their team against a bunch of unprepared neighborhood kids those kids will not have fun and will throw the game for you - by leaving. Not fun.
 

 
It'd not a challenge to have mag fed blasters vs. not mag fed blasters. All blasters that operate in similar ways (Spring, Flywheel, H/LPA) have similar performance characteristics, and all modern NERF stock blasters fire within margin of error of the same. It's just the loading mech that is different, and I'm telling you, I played with a kid who had a rapidstrike in his backpack. He was using a strongarm or something instead because he said the RS jammed all the time. The challenge would just be in spending lots of time carefully modding and teaching all the kids to use a blaster they can't use properly anyway because they're impatient and their strength/dexterity isn't developed enough to handle them in the heat of the war without extensive training (basically, unless they own and play with the things all the time).
 

Why give the pros anything? Let them bring their own gear. Everyone should bring his/her own gear, and if they don't have anything but still care to show up and play you should have enough loaner front-loaders to hand out. My friend (who is the host of aforementioned war) says roughcuts work best; I've seen my 4-yo use one. But they're fickle about darts; IMO a strongarm, hammershot, triad, or disrupter are probably the best bets. Maybe Magnum-40's. Ask your pro friends if they have loaners they can provide and you won't even need to buy anything.

1.)I don't think you are exactly getting the point, there is a reason why we are doing free for all and that is because we are modeling this after a water ballon war we had last year where everyone just went everywhere, no organized play, no teams, except for me and a few friends that stuck together and basically recked shop, however I will need to run this by with my neighbor. But that being said I may think of doing the fun part then the actual game part. You are right, the water war lasted for about 20 minutes and then fizzled out. I mean part of it is that I just don't think most people will be coming for nerf, my friends and a select few people from the neighborhood are there for the nerf guns and war, but people are there for my neighbor, and to have fun, not to have a team. You need to bear in mind my neighbor also can barely move and likely will be in a wheelchair and have sort of a convey of the pros, hence why we have them in the first place. 

 

2.)That being said you are right, I will work on balancing the pros a bit more.

 

3.)I don't know, all I know is I need mags and I'm wondering if these actually work, yes and again do realize the standard of the stuff I already have, plus I have a bunch of mags so to be able to use the same exact thing, so in the future when I get to use them on my own I will be able to use my mags too and they will be actually useful.

 

4.)Meaker, I'm not made of money, right now the cheapest thing with the most value would be these clips if they work, and a champion, almost all blasters I have are mag compatible, I'm wondering if these mags work and that is all, and most of the pros have stuff, but some don't and just are good players because of sports or paintball/airsoft




#358720 Bulk mags

Posted by Pineapplepies on 23 March 2017 - 09:53 AM in General Nerf

 
OH,  why didn't you say that earlier? Then I'd have gotten the point of your argument earlier.
 

 
See, this whole time, I've been under the impression you were hosting a nerf war for your neighbor. Largely based on this post:

 
If you just want to throw a party do whatever. If you want to throw the war you mentioned originally, and think people will come to play (It's still a fun event/party), then you need to provide some structure. You can let everybody just do the OK-corral thing while waiting for everyone to arrive.
 
When the people come, assign a portion of them to your neighbor who needs the help. Have someone responsible and capable help escort/push them around if they're in a wheelchair and give them a body guard or 2. If they can use a blaster let them, otherwise try to rig something up on the chair so they can push a button to fire it (or whatever their mobility level allows). Probably no more than 10% of your group should be involved in directly helping them play; otherwise it'll either feel OP or they'll feel like they're being overly helped. It isn't (usually) fun to just win by crushing your overmatched opponent.
 

 
Great. Let us know if you need any ideas.
 

 
So I think I see what you're getting at - YOU have mag-fed blasters and YOU  want the mags for future use; not for the benefit of the war. See next response.
 

If you're not made of money why are you even considering buying up possibly junk mags? I'd try buying 1-2 of these to see how they work if I were then going to buy a few dozen. Otherwise, I wouldn't waste my time/energy/treasure on possible junk when the real thing can be had for ~200% of the cost of these. If you further already have mag-fed blasters and already have a few clips to go with those. I've prefaced and couched my responses every time with something like "Unless you've already got mag-fed stuff..." Nobody needs extra mags, they can use the 1 that comes with the blaster and if they aren't invested in this party enough to be bringing their own kit it's on them if they don't like what you're generous enough to lend them.

 

You'd be way better off spending the same few bucks on good community darts than on these mags.

1.)Ok thank you for getting what I was saying, so yeah I may try these but hey meaker or anyone else do you know any other cheap mags you can get? We are looking for hopefully less than $10 per mag but ALL OPTIONS ARE WANTED within a reasonable price. 

2.)Well the VIP team needs enough mags, because some of them will be having full loadouts with tac gear and everything, like how I will have that VISM ak mag carrier, so cheap mags are wanted.

3.)Yeah, having extra mags is the thing we need though, because reloading will kill the team or just subject us to a lot of fire.




#359127 Buzz bee ultra tek Rapid tek vs sentinel

Posted by Pineapplepies on 09 April 2017 - 09:20 AM in General Nerf

https://www.amazon.c...BCMD5EMFTGXK53N
Is this the glorious sentinel. I do not own one but might pick it up for its insane performance.

Yes sadly this is the sentinel, it's a true shame to see some idiots at hasbro found a way to basically make a monopoly. My personal reccomendtion would be not to buy it at this price, sadly I don't think it's worth that much. You should if you are going to mod it but as for just leaving it stock your time to buy it was months ago when hasbro wasn't a pain in the ass

Edit:I know I sound depressed but it is true that unless you want to mod it for this price you should get something that's more functional all around or if you have the money because the sentinel is power based, something like a EAT for this price would better serve you in any situation where you need more speed



#359129 Buzz bee ultra tek Rapid tek vs sentinel

Posted by Pineapplepies on 09 April 2017 - 10:40 AM in General Nerf

This is basically a Sentinel in a different shell, with a better priming method and a significantly more comfortable handle. It's easier to turn it into a pump-action blaster as well. Someone brought one to the last NIB SoCal war and it had great performance right out of the box.


Huh, who would have known, I have both and quite frankly I think the sentinel is better but that's just me. Do you know if you can rotate the priming handle to the other side and has anyone done that? I use my left hand to prime and its bothersome to prime sideways so I would use this at endwar over my k26ed sentinel if I could find a way to do that.



#359151 Caliburn: Mag-fed Pump-action Springer

Posted by Pineapplepies on 10 April 2017 - 06:55 PM in Homemades

Do you think you could put a k14 in this? The power is great but what if we went higher fps, I know some homemade come in at like 230 fps like xellas in coops video so if you wanted to could you actually go the extra mile and use the strongest spring I know of.



#351368 Cheap China Knockoff Darts

Posted by Pineapplepies on 06 February 2016 - 10:28 AM in General Nerf

The nipple Stefan darts from China look interesting, but they have been pulled for some reason, they look a lot better than the ACC darts, here's their FB page...https://www.facebook...57733731152808/

Hmm, interesting. I think that these may just be the tops of ACCurates on foam from fvjs and what not. I partially preposed this idea in the thread Cheerios posted and I am glad to see someone may have had the same idea.
Edit: If these do turn out to be just a cut down ACC head glued on to another bullets foam, then just cut down ACC darts and be done with it.



#353414 Cheap stock dart mods

Posted by Pineapplepies on 12 May 2016 - 09:51 AM in Darts and Barrels

I agree, this type of round I also feel would never be war legal for any reason.

I would have to disagree, I feel that if one were to find a good padding to use with them they could make a non-metal Stefan or a better/slightly safer slug.(also people allow slugs in wars which have metal in them and I would like to ask if you would rather be hit by a high velocity dart with metal or a VERY small piece of wood) I think someone could cut these dowel rods down and use them hollowed out foam backer rod or ACC blanks, find a way to keep the dowel rod in the dart then pad the head of the dart so it would not hurt.

Edit:I am a bit confused and didn't notice that little wood thing which if that is the dart then that is definitely not safe but if the darts are the buzz bee extremes then they are most certainly safe



#361400 Cheapest darts, mags, rounds, everything, I have ever seen

Posted by Pineapplepies on 24 August 2017 - 10:56 AM in Darts and Barrels

It's a good option for cheap ammo and ugly-color mags or 18-dart mags. They don't offer too much else that's of interest 

yeah, but still they are good mags, i have some, they are really good, and work fine in any blaster. Still, it's cheap




#361363 Cheapest darts, mags, rounds, everything, I have ever seen

Posted by Pineapplepies on 21 August 2017 - 08:43 AM in Darts and Barrels

For the stuff I've looked at, shipping is not included in price. Add an extra $5 in there; though if they combine it might be an ok way to stock up.


Yes, ok, you are right, just checked and it's $31 including shipping for 1000, however, it's still a viable alternative because last I checked that's still cheaper than like eBay